Uniform problem in Tennessee

[Nevadaref]

Wow, documented enforcement of the NFHS uniform rule!

Unfortunately, this article also shows how lack of proper rules knowledge can really make officials look poor.

[Nevadaref]

BTW any of the five 2nd half starters who were in the game at the end of the 2nd quarter should not have been penalized upon returning to the court for the start of the 3rd quarter.

[Adam]

I need to pull the book out, but is there a restriction on when this should be enforced? If no one notices until midway through the 1st quarter, does it get ignored at that point?

[Snake~eyes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I need to pull the book out, but is there a restriction on when this should be enforced? If no one notices until midway through the 1st quarter, does it get ignored at that point?

Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

Once you notice the violation, it becomes a technical foul.

Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Just to be snippy, it's never a violation. You could call it an infraction.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

Juulie - If this is the case, I can give you the name of a good psychiatrist. In fact, I can give you about a dozen.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Juulie:

Way to go. Now are you starting to talk like me.

MTD, Sr.

YIKES!! Padgett-- Call me!

[Ignats75]

Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.

[Scooby]

Yes it can and must be enforced if it is caught later on in the game.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Yes it can and must be enforced if it is caught later on in the game.

Wrong....first of all, that was specifically mentioned in our state rules meeting by the official OHSAA rules interpreter.

Secondly:

10-3-2...wear an illegal jersey, illegal pants/skirt or illegal number.
PENALTY: (Art. 2) Each violation is penalized one time if discovered prior to ball becoming live for each esignated starter and each substitule who enters.

(italics are mine)

Clearly the uniform violation must be Teed at the start of the game for the starters and on initial entry into the game for each sub. Otherwise, no T. The rules state this and our rules interpreter clarified the same thing at our state rules meeting.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Unfortunately, the officials still misapplied the rule since the T needs to be enforced the first time the player with the illegal uniform enters the floor. If the T is not enforced at that time, it cannot be retroactively enforced.

Incorrect. It's a T when a player enters or re-enters the game. If they are in the game already, no T is called. However, if they are subbed out, and return, the T is called (but only 1 T per player per game).

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

However, if they are subbed out, and return, the T is called (but only 1 T per player per gam).

So, two per player?!? Seems a little harsh....

[truerookie]

Wow!!

Kenwood Coach Frank Bland said the issue had been settled in the pregame meeting and with four free throws by the Lady Pats' Hayley Randolph in the first half..

This have been 10 free throws for each stater and a Technical for every sub there after who enters wearing the illegal jersey.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW any of the five 2nd half starters who were in the game at the end of the 2nd quarter should not have been penalized upon returning to the court for the start of the 3rd quarter.

RULING: The shirt is illegal, but the technical-foul penalty cannot be invoked unless A1 is replaced and then re-enters. (10-3-2 Penalty)

Interesting. I would have thought that when the players became bench personnel at halftime, they could be charged with the technical foul at the start of the third quarter.