Three man mechanics

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MidMadness

And??? In the state I live in, it is all 2 man, so yeah, you have nothing better to do than to type such replys??? Jerk !!

Actually I was wondering the very same thing. Considering that the NF has a book about mechanics and the college level also has many mechanics information as well, I am a little curious why you would not have some knowledge before you have to work a game with that mechanic. I think it was a fair question to ask you.

I would also like to agree with Gordon on this as well. Just picking up a book or even information without some practice and be very difficult. I disagree that you just have to officiate and forget about where to stand. Part of officiating under these mechanics is knowing where to be or you will not be in the proper position or call the right things.

I will direct you to a PowerPoint our state uses. Log on and download the 3 Person Mechanics PowerPoint and that should cover the basics. I would suggest that in the future at least attend a camp that might give you a much better grasp of the system for future games.

Download the 3 Person Presentation

Peace

[Ref in PA]

Take a little extra time in the pregame with your partners to go over coverage and flexing situations. This will help most. Study the book all you want, but if you do not cover a variation in the pregame, it will look like it is the first time out for all of you.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

Take a little extra time in the pregame with your partners to go over coverage and flexing situations.

Excellent advice - being on the same page as your partners is critical to your success here. Make sure they know it's your first time doing 3-man, that you've studied the book and understand the mechanics, and that you'll do your best to apply them, but that any help and "philosophy" they can share on flexing and coverage would be very beneficial.

I know not all will agree with me, but being text-book in your first time out with 3-man is much less important than officiating the ballgame. Be confident, go out there and do your best, and don't get rattled if you end up in the wrong spot a time or two. It will happen.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I know not all will agree with me, but being text-book in your first time out with 3-man is much less important than officiating the ballgame. Be confident, go out there and do your best, and don't get rattled if you end up in the wrong spot a time or two. It will happen.

It is not about being "text-book" it is about knowing what you are looking at and what your basic responsibilities are. The more I observer and evaluate officials in a couple of hats I have worn, the more I realize when someone is lost about the mechanics; they are lost in officiating the game. A good example is how a Lead official will call on the other side of the lane because they are reverting to 2 Person philosophies that do not apply in 3 Person. That does not mean someone cannot overcome some things, but if you lack understanding, it can cause an official to call things they have no business calling or even doing things that will confuse his/her partners. This is why I would be concerned when I work with people that have little or no experience in the system and I have to work with them. There is only so much I can teach them in a pre-game. My state has done a very good job giving our officials information so most are not totally lost. But I can tell you when I work a varsity game and one of the officials might not show up, the first question I ask to the sophomore officials, "Do you have any 3 Person experience?"

Peace

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is not about being "text-book" it is about knowing what you are looking at and what your basic responsibilities are. The more I observer and evaluate officials in a couple of hats I have worn, the more I realize when someone is lost about the mechanics; they are lost in officiating the game. A good example is how a Lead official will call on the other side of the lane because they are reverting to 2 Person philosophies that do not apply in 3 Person. That does not mean someone cannot overcome some things, but if you lack understanding, it can cause an official to call things they have no business calling or even doing things that will confuse his/her partners. This is why I would be concerned when I work with people that have little or no experience in the system and I have to work with them. There is only so much I can teach them in a pre-game. My state has done a very good job giving our officials information so most are not totally lost. But I can tell you when I work a varsity game and one of the officials might not show up, the first question I ask to the sophomore officials, "Do you have any 3 Person experience?"

Peace

No doubt everything works better when people understand the mechanics, how to be positioned, where are their responsibilities, etc. That much is obvious.

But what's also true is the original poster here is going to work his first 3-man game very soon, whether he's ready or not. So I'm hoping we can help him as much as possible - regardless of whether he's "ready to go" or not. The truth of the matter is many officials will go 3-man for the first time in a game. Might be JV, might be Varsity. Hopefully they'll get a scrimmage or two, or even better a camp, but my guess is that outside of one or two pre-season scrimmages, most officials are thrown right in.

Bottom line, experience working games and scrimmages is the only thing that will fully prepare an official, and this guy doesn't seem to have the luxury of any "practice" priot to the real deal. So here's to giving him all the help we can. And I'll stick to my best advice in that situation - learn as much as you can in the book, do as much pregaming as possible with your partners, and then go out and officiate hard.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

No doubt everything works better when people understand the mechanics, how to be positioned, where are their responsibilities, etc. That much is obvious.

But what's also true is the original poster here is going to work his first 3-man game very soon, whether he's ready or not. So I'm hoping we can help him as much as possible - regardless of whether he's "ready to go" or not. The truth of the matter is many officials will go 3-man for the first time in a game. Might be JV, might be Varsity. Hopefully they'll get a scrimmage or two, or even better a camp, but my guess is that outside of one or two pre-season scrimmages, most officials are thrown right in.

I disagree with the statement that most are just thrown in. I think many here either are required to go to camps or prove what they can do at a camp before giving some kind of assignment. There are too many camps across the country and many jurisdictions are requiring some kind of camp experience even before you step onto the court let alone working 3 Person in a real game. And if you have any aspirations or even an inkling that you will be assigned or could be assigned such a game, you need to do some research long before you actually get the call. My first year I started studying the 3 person system and I had no games in that system and later that year I was assigned a game. Not to say I was great or knew everything, but I was much better prepared for that reality.

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Bottom line, experience working games and scrimmages is the only thing that will fully prepare an official, and this guy doesn't seem to have the luxury of any "practice" priot to the real deal. So here's to giving him all the help we can. And I'll stick to my best advice in that situation - learn as much as you can in the book, do as much pregaming as possible with your partners, and then go out and officiate hard.

Well even after this game is over, he needs to take time to learn the system anyway he can. Even if that means working some Men's Leagues (I cannot believe I just said that) and working with some vets to learn the basics. Even if he works this game this system is not something you learn overnight or learn by just working a couple of times on the court. For the system to have a flow, you need people to have a very good understanding so they can adjust to all kinds of situations and things that will throw you for a curve.

Peace

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I disagree with the statement that most are just thrown in. I think many here either are required to go to camps or prove what they can do at a camp before giving some kind of assignment. There are too many camps across the country and many jurisdictions are requiring some kind of camp experience even before you step onto the court let alone working 3 Person in a real game. And if you have any aspirations or even an inkling that you will be assigned or could be assigned such a game, you need to do some research long before you actually get the call. My first year I started studying the 3 person system and I had no games in that system and later that year I was assigned a game. Not to say I was great or knew everything, but I was much better prepared for that reality.

Well even after this game is over, he needs to take time to learn the system anyway he can. Even if that means working some Men's Leagues (I cannot believe I just said that) and working with some vets to learn the basics. Even if he works this game this system is not something you learn overnight or learn by just working a couple of times on the court. For the system to have a flow, you need people to have a very good understanding so they can adjust to all kinds of situations and things that will throw you for a curve.

Peace

I certainly agree with 99% of what you're saying - though I'd be interested to know how many jurisdictions require a camp experience prior to working games. I've never been in one, though I've always worked in more rural states that are hurting for officials.

I hope everyone who officiates takes it as seriously and works as hard at it as you and I do. I attend camps, clinics, meetings, and anything else I can get my hands on. I want to be the best official I can. That said, I'm going to work most nights with at least one offical of three that doesn't work nearly that hard, that is being thrown into action before they're ready out of necessity, and/or that, unfortunately, doesn't care as much as I do. I've discovered a few things that help that person in those situations, and as a result help the entire crew.

Bottom line is that those who come to this forum asking for help like this should be given as much as possible - as we've done in this thread. Hopefully we can also give him a bit of confidence while balancing with emphasizing the importance of mechanics. He's going to struggle with them the first time out, and it's going to be in a real game. Here's to hoping he officiates a good ballgame and doesn't get caught up worrying more about where to go after a couple of mistakes than the action happening in front of him...