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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 03:55pm
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Foul and technical foul

My team played a game in the county's amateur competition in Romania. It was a close game, and with 9 seconds left on the clock we were 1 point behind. We had the attack, and one of my teammates was fouled. The referee called the foul, but immediately after the call, the player, frustrated by the repeated fouls on him, lost his nerve and kicked the ball. Righteous technical foul, nothing wrong here.

My question is: was the referee right to cancel the 2 free throws the fouled player had to execute, and gave 2 free throws to the opposing team?

In my oppinion the fouled player should have had his 2 throws and after that the 2 throws for the opposing team, and the possesion of the ball.

Can anyone clear this up? Thanks!
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 03:57pm
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Looks like a FIBA question to me.

first question, are you sure your player was due two free throws? Was the bonus in play?
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 04:46pm
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If you are thinking that fouls should be administered in the order they happen; that is correct. However the questions Snaqwells posed must come into play to determine how they are administered.
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Old Fri Oct 26, 2007, 08:51pm
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How much would 2 FT + 2 FT be in metric, exactly?
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How much would 2 FT + 2 FT be in metric, exactly?
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Looks like a FIBA question to me.

first question, are you sure your player was due two free throws? Was the bonus in play?
He said the ref cancelled the two shots. But he might have misunderstood the situaotion.
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Old Sat Oct 27, 2007, 10:47am
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Old Sat Oct 27, 2007, 12:50pm
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My team played a game in the county's amateur competition in Romania. It was a close game, and with 9 seconds left on the clock we were 1 point behind. We had the attack, and one of my teammates was fouled. The referee called the foul, but immediately after the call, the player, frustrated by the repeated fouls on him, lost his nerve and kicked the ball. Righteous technical foul, nothing wrong here.

My question is: was the referee right to cancel the 2 free throws the fouled player had to execute, and gave 2 free throws to the opposing team?

In my oppinion the fouled player should have had his 2 throws and after that the 2 throws for the opposing team, and the possesion of the ball.

Can anyone clear this up? Thanks!
Assuming that your opponents were in team penalty situation (fifth and subsequent fouls in the quarter), the penalties for the two fouls were, in chronological order:
(1) two FT for your team mate;
(2) two FT and throw in at division line for your opponents.

Since the two penalties are different, both must be executed. No cancellation. If your opponents were not in team penalty situation, the penalty (1) would have been a throw in, which would have been cancelled due to the subsequent FT for your opponents.

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Old Sat Oct 27, 2007, 01:16pm
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Since the two penalties are different, both must be executed.
Wow! FIBA rules are harsh!
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Wow! FIBA rules are harsh!
Well, the right word didn't come to my mind and I used the one of the OP False friends, you know.

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Old Sun Oct 28, 2007, 03:59am
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To clear things up: both teams had over 5 personal fouls (it was the last minute of overtime).

Thanks for the answers, it's exactly how I thought it would be right.
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I do not do NCAA rules. Is their proceedure the same? Or is it Point Of Interuption (POI)? Shoot the foul for 'T', then line up the players and shoot the personal foul (2 shots). Just curious for when I watch these games on TV.
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Wow! FIBA rules are harsh!
Except in Switzerland.
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Old Sun Oct 28, 2007, 03:26pm
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I do not do NCAA rules. Is their proceedure the same? Or is it Point Of Interuption (POI)? Shoot the foul for 'T', then line up the players and shoot the personal foul (2 shots). Just curious for when I watch these games on TV.
You have the correct procedure for NCAA (unless it's a flagrant T or intentional T -- the latter for Men only).
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