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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:18pm
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If that is what that means, then that is a bad idea in my opinion. You are not going to have a very good angle and you also might get hurt. And that is not something I would ever teach.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 12:45pm
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It is being taught extensively on the women's side. I was at Patty Broderick's camp in Chicago and if you don't pinch for her, you don't work for her. She watched me work a game and physically pushed me over into the paint (I kinda liked it!!! HAHA!!) Once you master it, it really does give you a much better view when accepting a play coming from C, or the spin move like Scrapper said. When in Rome.....

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and if you don't pinch for her, you don't work for her.
There's a woman around here who uses that philosophy with her employees. Her name is Madame Candy.
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There's a woman around here who uses that philosophy with her employees. Her name is Madame Candy.
She once offered me a night of "super sex." I said, "At my age, I'd better have the soup."
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She once offered me a night of "super sex." I said, "At my age, I'd better have the soup."
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At my age, the only thing hot waiting for me in my dressing room is a bowl of soup

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 01:38pm
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She once offered me a night of "super sex." I said, "At my age, I'd better have the soup."
Just a twinkie for me, thanks.
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Just a twinkie for me, thanks.
Do twinkies in your neck of the woods look like this?
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I'd make a comment about the cream filling, but I don't want to start a thread of Larry Craig jokes.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 03:24pm
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Its funny how these terms evolve. I'm sure not all of them are exactly the same, but for the most part they are -- at least in terms of trying to get a better look. Years ago, we called this "stepping into the pocket." However, I will concede this was primarily for the C and T, not the L. So again, things do change and get more technical, but the idea is basically the same.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 04:20pm
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Pinching was added to NCAA-W last year. We were told that it came from the NBA and WNBA...it is for "help" purposes only - not for reffing your primary area or competitive match-ups as Lead. In other words, the drive from C's side when a secondary defender steps over from L's side - you get a fantastic angle on that secondary defender by stepping into the paint momentarily...of course, after that play you get back out of there asap.

And I agree that it is VERY hard to get used to doing. After years of being told "Stay out of the paint", now we're told "Why didn't you pinch the paint on that play?"
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This is what the CCA mechanic book says about "pinching the paint."

"Pinching the paint" is when the lead, from the close-down position, takes a step or two into the imaginary extended paint area when a drive is coming from the center's side of the court or down the middle.

"The lead still has secondary coverage in this play, with the official where the play originated having primary coverage. As soon as the drive is complete and shot is taken, the lead should take a position for the best possible rebounding coverage. That will typically be back to the close-down position."

To my understanding, the use of this technique is to help the "C" with secondary defender. Often by just being in the "close down" position, the lead official gets "straightline" with the player driving to the basket and the secondary defender. I think it helps getting a better look at the play and using this technique will increase the chances of calling the play right.
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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 01:00pm
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This is what the CCA mechanic book says about "pinching the paint."
Which book would that be? There is not just one CCA book.

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Which book would that be? There is not just one CCA book.

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2007-2008 CCA- Collegiate Commissioner Association. Women's Basketball Officiating.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 01:25pm
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2007-2008 CCA- Collegiate Commissioner Association. Women's Basketball Officiating.

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I have never heard that taught in Men's basketball. I do not see any such terminology anywhere in the CCA Men's book. Men's and Women's mechanics are very different for a reason.

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Old Thu Oct 25, 2007, 01:37pm
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I have never heard that taught in Men's basketball. I do not see any such terminology anywhere in the CCA Men's book. Men's and Women's mechanics are very different for a reason.

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You are correct. This technique is for the women's side only.
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