Tech on Coach situation

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by KSRef07

When I was a varsity coach, if you were at my varsity boys game and you called a T on my player with no warning and started the game that way, my AD and I would make sure you NEVER reffed another one of my games again.

That bullsh!t may work is your state but it wouldn't fly here. Unless you could supply film that showed I had set aside a rule, my assignor would not only ignore your "request," he's likely to send me right back over there very, very soon. And, he would probably be sitting in the stands that night as well. BTW, the state association would back both of us.

Coaches and ADs have no such power here, nor should they anywhere. Such childish threats are foolish and out dated. Boy, talk about somebody on a power trip.

JR, make sure you ask Ms. Martin if it's the KHSAA's stand that pre-game dunks should be ignored. If so, ask her what other rules they have decided to ignore and if in doing so, they have given up their vote on the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee. I'm dying to hear back from her.

PS KSRef - You might want to listen to Brad. He's the administrator of this site.

[jer166]

dang this is entertaining as well as educational. Wish I could add something, but everytime I think of a constructive response somone beats me to it or I'm laughing so hard I forget the context of my reply.

Keep it going though.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That bullsh!t may work is your state but it wouldn't fly here. Unless you could supply film that showed I had set aside a rule, my assignor would not only ignore your "request," he's likely to send me right back over there very, very soon. And, he would probably be sitting in the stands that night as well. BTW, the state association would back both of us.

Coaches and ADs have no such power here, nor should they anywhere. Such childish threats are foolish and out dated. Boy, talk about somebody on a power trip.

JR, make sure you ask Ms. Martin if it's the KHSAA's stand that pre-game dunks should be ignored. If so, ask her what other rules they have decided to ignore and if in doing so, they have given up their vote on the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee. I'm dying to hear back from her.

PS KSRef - You might want to listen to Brad. He's the administrator of this site.

Glad to hear officials and schedulers are all powerful in your state. I find it amusing that folks like you refuse to believe it's not the same everywhere. You must be east or west coast.

[Nevadaref]

He is the president of his officials' assn in North Carolina. He is one of the best both on this forum and on the court (field too as he is also a top football official.)

BTW I believe that giving the coaches and ADs the power KSRef07 describes compromises the integrity of the game. Officials become more worried about pleasing the coach and the AD than calling the game correctly. It is a sad situation.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

He is the president of his officials' assn in North Carolina. He is one of the best both on this forum and on the court (field too as he is also a top football official.)

BTW I believe that giving the coaches and ADs the power KSRef07 describes compromises the integrity of the game. Officials become more worried about pleasing the coach and the AD than calling the game correctly. It is a sad situation.

No argument there. If you really boil down the comment and take away the emotion, it's about having a ref who refuses to use the least bit of judgment and what would happen to him in my neck of the woods. The specific example cited are irrelevent.

Great for Brad. A little disappointed he would ask "Is this your first year?" after admonishing me about "snarky posts". I would have asked "How long have you been officiating?" Hope that doesn't translate to his rapport on the court - "hey coach, have you read a rule book?" .

[Brad]

Originally Posted by KSRef07

No argument there. If you really boil down the comment and take away the emotion, it's about having a ref who refuses to use the least bit of judgment and what would happen to him in my neck of the woods. The specific example cited are irrelevent.

Great for Brad. A little disappointed he would ask "Is this your first year?" after admonishing me about "snarky posts". I would have asked "How long have you been officiating?" Hope that doesn't translate to his rapport on the court - no offense.

He's not talking about me ... I live in Texas. I think he's talking about BktBallRef.

KS -- you really need to tone down your posts. You are defensive to anything that anyone says that doesn't agree with you and your responses are sarcastic and derogatory.

To put it in coach terms: This is your warning.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by KSRef07

Glad to hear officials and schedulers are all powerful in your state. I find it amusing that folks like you refuse to believe it's not the same everywhere. You must be east or west coast.

You're really quite full of yourself, aren't you?

No, officials and assignors are not all powerful. But the NCHSAA is. And they do not allow egotistical coaches and power hungry ADs decide who officiates their games.

Further, I have no reason to believe that things are done the same in all states. But I do know that it's absolutely ridiculous for a coach to try to mark an official off because he doesn't like it that a rule is being correctly enforced.

Kudos Brad for giving this "poster" some time off to re-think his posting habits.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

JR, make sure you ask Ms. Martin if it's the KHSAA's stand that pre-game dunks should be ignored.

That exact question was asked of her, Tony. I also linked this thread to her, so that she has complete knowledge about what is being claimed as standard officiating practice in Kansas.