Tech on Coach situation

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by KSRef07

Again, leniency. I am only saying - use it as a tool to control a coach. However, he is not "coaching his PLAYERS" by silently watching and misses the intent of the rule. "Coaching is the process of inspiring, encouraging, motivating, and instructing." It is active.

So, figuring out which play to call, which defense to use, which player to counter the other team's sub - this is not considered coaching? Where do I find your definition of coaching? Where do I find your interpretation of the intent of the coache's box?

Originally Posted by KSRef07

Next time you run a 3-man and you are the Center running up the sideline near OOB where you should be, with a coach kneeling at the sideline, you'll figure it out.

What I'll figure out is I need to watch where I'm going. It is exactly the same as the sub kneeling in front of the table waiting to come into the game. The coach has every right to be in the box, kneeling, standing, or humming show tunes, and it's my job to make sure I know where I'm going. If I step on a player's foot while they're sitting on the bench, should I T them up? Should I move them to the locker room because they got in my way?

[26 Year Gap]

Is it a coincidence that KSref joined this month and Old School has been gone for about a month?

[BillyMac]

From KCRef07: "Under NO circumstances can an assistant coach stand."

May an assistant coach, during a live ball, while the clock is running, stand to approach the scorer's table to inquire about the number of fouls on a player, or the number a time outs remaining? I don't believe that a head coach is allowed to do this?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From KCRef07: "Under NO circumstances can an assistant coach stand."

May an assistant coach, during a live ball, while the clock is running, stand to approach the scorer's table to inquire about the number of fouls on a player, or the number a time outs remaining? I don't believe that a head coach is allowed to do this?

No. A scorekeeper for the team can.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From KCRef07: "Under NO circumstances can an assistant coach stand."

May an assistant coach, during a live ball, while the clock is running, stand to approach the scorer's table to inquire about the number of fouls on a player, or the number a time outs remaining? I don't believe that a head coach is allowed to do this?

I'm getting here later but....

NO, ABSOLTUELY NOT!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Is it a coincidence that KSref joined this month and Old School has been gone for about a month?

I am brand new here.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by KSRef07

I am brand new here.

What part of my post do you not understand?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Is it a coincidence that KSref joined this month and Old School has been gone for about a month?

I think it is just coincidence. KSref actually typed out a rule, so he can't be OS.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I think it is just coincidence. KSref actually typed out a rule, so he can't be OS.

He changes his stance just like OS. He makes up stuff on the fly just like JMO. He is never in the same place as either of those two.

[Snake~eyes]

So according to your statement, if a coach never says anything, he is not a coach because he does not commit the act of coaching.


anyways... deifnition

1 : to train intensively (as by instruction and demonstration)
2 : to act as coach of

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

So according to your statement, if a coach never says anything, he is not a coach because he does not commit the act of coaching.


anyways... deifnition

1 : to train intensively (as by instruction and demonstration)
2 : to act as coach of

No, the word is coaching - a verb. The rule is "coaching PLAYERS" (i.e. not contemplating the universe with hands folded in the coaches box.)

Originally Posted by KSRef07

No, the word is coaching - a verb. The rule is "coaching PLAYERS" (i.e. not contemplating the universe with hands folded in the coaches box.)

I find it hard to believe that any association would advocate whacking a coach just because he was standing within the legal confines of the box. At what point do you call it? When he stands for 5 seconds without talking? 10? 30?
Are you paying that much attention to the coach and not the game, to see if he isn't saying something to his players? What if he was instructing his bench personnel and not those on the floor.
You'd have a hard time convincing your assigner that this was a legit foul call.
I'd like to be in the stands the first time you called this on a coach.

Originally Posted by PYRef

I find it hard to believe that any association would advocate whacking a coach just because he was standing within the legal confines of the box. At what point do you call it? When he stands for 5 seconds without talking? 10? 30?
Are you paying that much attention to the coach and not the game, to see if he isn't saying something to his players? What if he was instructing his bench personnel and not those on the floor.
You'd have a hard time convincing your assigner that this was a legit foul call.
I'd like to be in the stands the first time you called this on a coach.

Uhh, the rule is 2.73 seconds after the behind leaves the chair.

Instructing players on the bench is fine. Look, it's not my rule, its the KS state rule and they want it enforced. We all do.

Give me a break. I said it 10 times already - lenient - used as a tool if he begins to target the refs. Something along these lines - "Stop or we will strictly enforce the rule." If still no improvement, then tell him to sit unless directly instructing the players. If still no improvement then a T the next time he demonstrably disputes a call. Then he sits for good.

Originally Posted by KSRef07

Instructing players on the bench is fine. Look, it's not my rule, its the KS state rule and they want it enforced. We all do.

Give me a break. I said it 10 times already - lenient - used as a tool if he begins to target the refs. Something along these lines - "Stop or we will strictly enforce the rule." If still no improvement, then tell him to sit unless directly instructing the players. If still no improvement then a T the next time he demonstrably disputes a call. Then he sits for good.

Maybe it's just me, and it's after midnight, but in the first sentence you say it is the KS state rule and they and everyone else wants it enforced. OK, fine then enforce it.

Then in the next sentence, you say you're lenient and give them 3 chances to comply.

If a coach repeatedly stands and demonstrably disputes a call, any official, will T him up. But that's because of his actions. I'm not going to tell him he has to sit if he's not instructing his players though. (at least not until after the T )

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Is it a coincidence that KSref joined this month and Old School has been gone for about a month?

I think you're on to something....