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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 09:58am
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Wink Overtime ? ...Guilty.

Okay folks....
Since no one has admitted it yet, I herein confess that I was the Ref when an 8th grade kid made a spin move at the top and banked one in for "3", forcing overtime. 3 minutes later her team lost by one. [sigh!]

This is not good game management !
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 10:05am
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Okay folks....
Since no one has admitted it yet, I herein confess that I was the Ref when an 8th grade kid made a spin move at the top and banked one in for "3", forcing overtime. 3 minutes later her team lost by one. [sigh!]

This is not good game management !
I dont know why officials think overtime is so taboo......I my mind if it happens, so be it. I have no problem with overtime at all. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 10:08am
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A couple of seasons ago, one of the varsity officials took ill. Since it was a crew of two, they asked if I could fill in for the 2nd half. The visitors trailed much of the game and made a baseline 15 footer at the buzzer to send the game into OT. So, I got an extra 4 minutes in that night.
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 02:10pm
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I dont know why officials think overtime is so taboo......I my mind if it happens, so be it. I have no problem with overtime at all. Just my 2 cents.
I think a lot of officials say this in jest. In reality this is out of our control most of the time and even if we call a foul and put someone on the line, they still have to perform. I am not taking responsibility for a team not defending a wide open shot that takes the game into overtime.

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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 08:36pm
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I dont know why officials think overtime is so taboo......I my mind if it happens, so be it. I have no problem with overtime at all. Just my 2 cents.

I think the rule about no overtimes should be modified slightly, "no overtime for JV games." This is especially important on nights when working a double header at two different locations.

Now I must admit that I learned the hard way. My 1st year, 1st game of the year, I was on a JV game that went to double OT. That was when I heard this phrase, "that's going into your evaluation."

For me and most every official I know, I think that no overtimes is just said tongue in check and they don't mean it. However there are some referees that I know of that really believe and act on it, but that's on them in the end.
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Now I must admit that I learned the hard way. My 1st year, 1st game of the year, I was on a JV game that went to double OT. That was when I heard this phrase, "that's going into your evaluation."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? "that's going into your evaluation"? Anyone who says that needs their head examined, unless they meant it in jest. I had a partner who told me that once, and I asked if he was kidding me, and he said no, it showed up on his evaluation the year before. I had to look at him funny like he was bs'ing me. He gave me the "no, I'm serious" look. Out of curiosity, I called one of the evaluators later (gutsy move on my part) and he confirmed that ONE of the evalutors did make that comment on some of the guys, which also was the only year that person was an evaluator. The evaluator I talked to told me if you ever have a partner who says to try to avoid overtime, to call him back and let him know. Tough gun this evaluator is!
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Old Wed Oct 17, 2007, 09:31am
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...He confirmed that ONE of the evalutors did make that comment on some of the guys, which also was the only year that person was an evaluator.
Nobody let him in on the humor [if FIBA - humour], it would seem.
Or as *they* say, "He just don't git it."
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Mick, please. I just ate.
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Okay folks....
Since no one has admitted it yet, I herein confess that I was the Ref when an 8th grade kid made a spin move at the top and banked one in for "3", forcing overtime. 3 minutes later her team lost by one. [sigh!]

This is not good game management !
Did she call the bank?
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 10:20am
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Did she call the bank?
Nope, but I gave her some extra credit.
In the 3rd quarter she was chasing an opponent down the floor, ran into a screen that was set "all day long" and dropped like a rag doll thrown against the wall.
The only call was, "Time!"
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 10:33am
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Allowing overtimes violates the second rule of officiating. And - we all know what the first rule of officiating is. BTW - the third rule is "Coaches have a shorter leash than a puppy".
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 10:57am
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Allowing overtimes violates the second rule of officiating.
What do you mean by “Allowing” overtime? How can a ref determine overtime or not? Besides, who cares? I look at overtime as kind of a bonus to ref an extra 4 minutes. I enjoy a tight, well fought battle.
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 11:22am
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Vinski and IREFU2,
It's very nice that you take officiating so seriously and professionally.
Keep up the good work !
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Old Tue Oct 16, 2007, 11:40am
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What do you mean by “Allowing” overtime? How can a ref determine overtime or not?
It's pretty easy, actually.

That said....

It's a running joke.
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What do you mean by “Allowing” overtime? How can a ref determine overtime or not?
During pre-game, I always tell my partner, "If this game goes into overtime, it's your fault!"
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