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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 11:18pm
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Last year I was in a game where a kid dislocated his knee. The game was delayed probably 25 minutes. We allowed both teams to warm-up a little before we resumed play. Nothing in the rules says we can do this or even addresses this situation specifically, but we did it because of such a long delay.

Another year I was watching a game with a team from a poorer neighborhood and they had illegal jerseys for the JV game. All jerseys did not have front numbers and the officials did not give any Ts and allowed the team to play. This school also came from a very long way and it just would not have made good sense to penalize the team with the rule.

This is not a hypothetical, but it is a case where you can use some judgment.

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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 12:22am
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Another year I was watching a game with a team from a poorer neighborhood and they had illegal jerseys for the JV game. All jerseys did not have front numbers and the officials did not give any Ts and allowed the team to play. This school also came from a very long way and it just would not have made good sense to penalize the team with the rule.
Not applying a rule that is in the book is not an example of applying 2-3, it is simply an example of ignoring a rule.
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 01:02am
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Not applying a rule that is in the book is not an example of applying 2-3, it is simply an example of ignoring a rule.
I disagree. Then again you are not from the NF, but you want to make the rest of us think you are.

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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 01:38am
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I disagree. Then again you are not from the NF, but you want to make the rest of us think you are.
You can disagree all that you want, but it won't change the fact that 2-3 is for "points not specifically covered in the rules."

While what you did may have been intelligent and in the best interests of that game, it does not mean that your decision to overlook the illegal jerseys was an application of 2-3. It would be poor for wanja to give this as an example to his study class.

PS I have never claimed to be "from the NF" nor do I desire to make anyone think that I am. I don't know where you come up with these prevarications.
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 10:49am
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You can disagree all that you want, but it won't change the fact that 2-3 is for "points not specifically covered in the rules."

While what you did may have been intelligent and in the best interests of that game, it does not mean that your decision to overlook the illegal jerseys was an application of 2-3. It would be poor for wanja to give this as an example to his study class.

PS I have never claimed to be "from the NF" nor do I desire to make anyone think that I am. I don't know where you come up with these prevarications.
Nothing in the rules covers situations like a fire or income situations that might affect the actual application of rules or how to alleviate. Or what do you do when the court does not fit the specific rules as written. Do you cancel the game? Do you play? Do you consider a different line as the out of bounds line or division line. I played a year at a Missouri Private School and our court was not regulation and we still played the games. I am not giving Ts to prove I know a rule when circumstances might be unavoidable even if the rule is in conflict.

I think the problem Nevada you need to get out of the desert and get around to many different situations that are not packaged in a perfect little book.

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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 10:56am
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Jeff,
Nevada's not saying you should have called the Ts. He's saying that giving the leeway there just isn't an application of 2-3 even though it's smart officiating.
Sorta like not calling every travel you see in the 7th grade C game. It may be smart game management, but it's not really an application of 2-3.
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Old Tue Sep 11, 2007, 11:06am
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Nevada's not saying you should have called the Ts. He's saying that giving the leeway there just isn't an application of 2-3 even though it's smart officiating. Sorta like not calling every travel you see in the 7th grade C game. It may be smart game management, but it's not really an application of 2-3.
Good, then we disagree. The last time I checked, I do not put must stock in what Nevada thinks. Life will go on.

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