NBA Charge Foul rules

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Your personal belief is completely wrong under both NCAA and NFHS rules. If anyone is giving 2 steps in these situations, then they are calling block/charges incorrectly. There is no time/distance allowed when guarding a player with the ball, either dribbling or holding. The only criteria used to make the correct call is whether the defender has a legal guarding position at the time of contact, where on the defender the contact occurs, and whether the dribbler was able to get his head/shoulders past the defender before contact. Whether they gather the ball or not or how many steps the player with the ball takes before the contact occurs is completely irrelevant, rules-wise.

The criteria that you are using applies to guarding a player without the ball.

You're exactly right in terms of primary defenders, but I was under the assumption that we were all talking about secondary defenders and them coming in and undercutting the shooter?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

You're exactly right in terms of primary defenders, but I was under the assumption that we were all talking about secondary defenders and them coming in and undercutting the shooter?

The same rules apply to secondary defenders also under NFHS and NCAA rules. And undercutting the shooter is a separate matter...and call. In that situation, a defender has to establish and maintain a legal guarding position before the player with ball becomes airborne.

Of course, if you're discussing strictly NBA rules, ignore everything that I've posted. I simply do not have sufficient knowledge of that ruleset to comment one way or another.

[Adam]

It seems to me one cannot have LGP and undercut a shooter.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It seems to me one cannot have LGP and undercut a shooter.

Um, yeah......

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It seems to me one cannot have LGP and undercut a shooter.

If you remove time and distance and stipulate before the shooter goes airborne. It is possible.

Why is it in Fed. that more allowance in terms of LGP is given to the player without the ball and on defense then the player with the ball about to score? 4-40-6

[Adam]

Removed and edited: I said I was done. I'll keep my word.