Your worst game ever?

[tjones1]

Visiting scorer didn't like my foul calls. Starting voicing his opinion while I was reporting. Properly took care of the situation by telling game management to have him removed. While he was being removed he was screaming how he was going to wait for me until after the game.

[btaylor64]

AAU 17:under Nationals all under 4 min. in the game and it's a 4-6 point game:

I call 5 or 6 T's on the same team (all on players except one which was on the assistant). End up calling the game with 10.8.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sorry, let me translate that into Oregonian for you:

3/2

....math is hard...

[Mark Padgett]

Since Brad locked the thread about carrying a gun to games, here's the final word on the subject:

"I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even 'hari-kari' if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun." - Hawkeye Pierce

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Since Brad locked the thread about carrying a gun to games, here's the final word on the subject:

"I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even 'hari-kari' if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun." - Hawkeye Pierce

Yeah, Alan Alda's Hawkeye was clever...back in 197 whateverthatwas.

I prefer the original Donald Sutherland version. Happier, smarter and didn't take himself half as seriously.

[Brad]

Locking a thread is not an invitation to continue discussion in another thread

[Brad]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

She looks at us and asks, "Are either of you guys married?" We look at each other and tell her no, so she says, "Cause I sure hope you f*** better than you ref!!", and turns around and walks away.

This doesn't even make any sense and isn't clever or funny at all. The correct line would have been something like, "If you are, I hope that you go home and f*** your wife as good as you f***ed us!" or something to that effect.

I probably would have laughed at her and asked her if she wanted to go get a drink

My worst experience is easy... Early on in my high school career -- like 3rd or 4th year... Varsity boys tournament. Team is losing by 20-30 and coach decides that it is my fault with like 2-3 minutes left in the game.

I make a call, report it, and go to administer the free throw when I hear something behind me. Look back and the coach's clipboard is all over the floor, papers everywhere... the coach is sitting down not saying a word. I look at my partner like "WTH???"

WHACK!!!

Coach stands up now and yells, "F***K YOU B**TCH!!!"

WHACK! GET OUT!!!

Now coach says nothing and comes out on the court to retrieve his clipboard -- doesn't say another word. I walk over to the table and ask them to have someone escort the coach off the court (no cops / security, of course!) when all of a sudden I head, "I'm going to kick your a$$!!!" and turn to see the assistant coach holding back the head coach who is now coming after me.

My partner comes over as the coach is yelling, "I'm going to wait in the parking lot and kick your a$$!!!" among other profanities.

My partner looks at the table and says, "Game over!" and we run off the court.

Ten minutes later in the locker room, still in a bit of a state of shock, the coach comes in an apologizes -- meek as can be.

To this day I still don't know what I did to pi$$ him off that much!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Brad

This doesn't even make any sense and isn't clever or funny at all. The correct line would have been something like, "If you are, I hope that you go home and f*** your wife as good as you f***ed us!" or something to that effect.

I probably would have laughed at her and asked her if she wanted to go get a drink

I agree; I wish I could say I couldn't remember what was said, but it is something I've never forgotten. It was apparently just her attempt at sarcastic humor.

Neither my partner or I saw anything funny about the whole night, and it was a good wake-up call about what game management is really about.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Brad

To this day I still don't know what I did to pi$$ him off that much!

At this point, do you really care?

I have had this situation occur several times and couple of those times I didn't have the luxuary of a locked locker room like at a HS game. This is a big part of officiating, that is knowing how to handle yourself in situations like this, because they are bound to occur. The better you get at handling this and defusing it, if possible, the better official you will become. Your confidence will go thru the roof.

Game management, and this is not something you can learn from reading a rulebook. You can only get this from experienced. Expereinced will teach you to be on the lookout for these type of situations, to know that this is brewing underneath, to know the temperament of your game is a must, a key, because then you can react to it appropriately when it explodes. IOW's, you already know it's going to explode before it explodes.

Examining your situation, i had a similiar situation I would like to share. I had a coach throw a chair onto the floor after i made a call. I reported, turned to tell partner we're shooting one. A player on the court says hey, look at that, I turn around, there's a chair on the floor! Since, I didn't see who threw the chair or how it got there, I could not honestly give the coach a T. I asked my partner did he see it, he said no. So I just told them to pick the chair up, we shoot the FT and keep playing. Since, I did not have definite knowledge, I choose to do nothing. Was this the right thing to do? Blow-out game, feelings a bit strained, losing team not taking it very well, I call that T, I gotta toss somebody and all the other hoop-la that goes with it. This games over, no need in me delaying it by giving out a T. You can sit there and take your medicine just like i got to complete calling the rest of this blow-out game. Now, different story if I actually saw him do it. Game management or game screw-up? You tell me.

What's more important to you? Making the tough call when it needs to be made or managing the game to a normal completion? Two school of thoughts, only one correct answer, your answer. What would you do?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Brad

Coach stands up now and yells, "F***K YOU B**TCH!!!"

Now I see why you were mad. He thought you were a girl!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Game management or game screw-up? You tell me.

It's a game screw-up made by a person who doesn't have the necessary requirements to be an official. Ignoring a chair thrown on the court is absolutely ridiculous imo. It simply shows a complete lack of gonads. And I don't believe for a minute that ANY crew of officials would NOT know how the chair got on the floor. That's called selective blindness to avoid having to take care of bidness. It sureasaheck ain't game management.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

....math is hard...

As someone who spent 7 years studying mathematics before finally deciding a PhD was too much effort, this never fails to make me laugh uproariously.

I'm sure it's true, it's true....

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Old School

At this point, do you really care?

LOL ... no!

Since, I didn't see who threw the chair or how it got there, I could not honestly give the coach a T. I asked my partner did he see it, he said no. So I just told them to pick the chair up, we shoot the FT and keep playing. Since, I did not have definite knowledge, I choose to do nothing. Was this the right thing to do?

Not sure... only you can decide that, I guess, based on the situation.

For me, I didn't see the coach throw the clipboard, but it was pretty apparent to me that he was the one that did it. His response after the technical pretty much confirmed it!

What's more important to you? Making the tough call when it needs to be made or managing the game to a normal completion? Two school of thoughts, only one correct answer, your answer. What would you do?

All things being equal and even though I have calmed down from my quick-trigger days... I would probably have to WHACK! a coach for throwing a chair! If for nothing else, lack of originality!

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Now I see why you were mad. He thought you were a girl!

Or a dog!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

What's more important to you? Making the tough call when it needs to be made or managing the game to a normal completion? Two school of thoughts, only one correct answer, your answer. What would you do?

This, folks, is what's known as a false dichotomy. In actuality, these "two school of thoughts" (sic) are inextricably linked.

For those of you in Rio Linda, that means they can't be separated.