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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:09am
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Has anybody ever heard of the following mechanic: A1 gets fouled on the shot (Blast) baskets good (tweet)?
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:19am
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Has anybody ever heard of the following mechanic: A1 gets fouled on the shot (Blast) baskets good (tweet)?
I've heard it in the NBA. I've also seen some guys try to emulate that mechanic in high school and summer games, if that's even a mechanic. IMO it's unnecessary.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:28am
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Are you saying a single Ref blows the whistle for the foul and then blows it again for the made basket? Interesting..... what is the point of the secondary whistle?
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:36am
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Are you saying a single Ref blows the whistle for the foul and then blows it again for the made basket? Interesting..... what is the point of the secondary whistle?
The point of it is to make youself look like as big an ***/amateur *** possible, and to draw as much attention to yourself and how cool you are, and how in tune your whistle is with its patented 3-chamber design. Basically, what I'm saying is DON'T DO IT, YOU'LL LOOK STUPID AND NEVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:44am
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thanks.... I was confused just thinking of this situation and can only imagine what that does to the Table and Benches.... hum.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:59am
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Are you saying a single Ref blows the whistle for the foul and then blows it again for the made basket? Interesting..... what is the point of the secondary whistle?
Exactly... I guess to signify "count the basket"!


I worked with an ex CBA official last night & whenever he gets bored with the quality of play he throws little things like that at me. I guess just to see if I'm paying attention or if I am going to ask him why he did whatever he did. He clearly said NOT to use it in HS/NCAA games or camps but it might be a good style to mix into the Summer Pro Am League.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 11:20am
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The point of it is to make youself look like as big an ***/amateur *** possible, and to draw as much attention to yourself and how cool you are, and how in tune your whistle is with its patented 3-chamber design. Basically, what I'm saying is DON'T DO IT, YOU'LL LOOK STUPID AND NEVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

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Really?

Although this dude is very cool he doesn't do it to "draw as much attention " to himself.
Whenever he steps onto the court his reputation preceeds him... all the players trust & respect him (takes care of biz) he's a great partner as well, has your back to the point where he will step between you & an upset player.


Splute thanks.... I was confused just thinking of this situation and can only imagine what that does to the Table and Benches.... hum.

The table loves him (great people person) & they knew to score the basket before he even reports because of the 2nd tweet.


CLH - While you are entitled to that opinion, I would have to say he was taken very seriously to have had the opportunity to officiate in the CBA & everything under + call balls/strikes in the Majors...
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 12:19pm
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You may be right man, but remember he also said to NEVER use it in real games! Proves my point, later man!
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 01:28pm
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The whistle is an irritant. So we don't want to overuse it. Obviously it's proper to use it to draw people's attention to your call. At that point, you need to interject yourself into the situation. But I think it's better to forgo the whistle when it doesn't add any new information, or there is no need to get people's attention. In this case, you've already got people's attention; a simple signal will do all the communicating that's necessary.

I have had partners do this during games, and it bothers me a little. It seems a little like piling on. Leave it to the announcers to scream, "And the bucket too!"

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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 02:39pm
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Exactly... I guess to signify "count the basket"!


I worked with an ex CBA official last night & whenever he gets bored with the quality of play he throws little things like that at me. I guess just to see if I'm paying attention or if I am going to ask him why he did whatever he did. He clearly said NOT to use it in HS/NCAA games or camps but it might be a good style to mix into the Summer Pro Am League.
Let me reassure you that this is NOT used in the pro game and is not used in the pro-am I work. That does, imo, look stupid. What if you do that when a team is down 15 to 20 and they(the team down) foul a guy and they get an and 1. Well the coach is probably going to say, "It's not bad enough I'm getting beat by 20, but you just shove that and 1 up my a**, well you know what, screw you." Then you have to dump the coach and it just looks bad altogether.

I'm not saying anything about the guy because in pro ball personal preference is the spice of life, and life being basketball, so if he wants to use that I guess it's ok but I don't know one NBA referee who does that.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 02:51pm
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Let me reassure you that this is NOT used in the pro game and is not used in the pro-am I work. That does, imo, look stupid.
When I asked what the double was all about, he did say it was how the officials in the league used to do it...
Looked pretty fresh to me although I do see where you're coming from, I don't think I would experiment with it in blowout situations.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 04:36pm
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This is something that a lot of people really get bent out of shape about, but I like seeing it. I'll never do it, and I don't recommend it, but it's fun to be in the crowd and see an official get excited

I know a couple people that do it, and they just do it to have fun. Also, I could care less if a coach objects to the way I make a call. I care if an assignor objects to the way I make a call, and most of them object to it.
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 07:34am
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This is something that a lot of people really get bent out of shape about, but I like seeing it. I'll never do it, and I don't recommend it, but it's fun to be in the crowd and see an official get excited.
I think it's funny how people assume that every assigner hates this particular "mechanic." While I'm sure most may, maybe even all, I would be slow to flatly state that someone won't be taken seriously if they do it.
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 07:48am
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I think it's funny how people assume that every assigner hates this particular "mechanic." While I'm sure most may, maybe even all, I would be slow to flatly state that someone won't be taken seriously if they do it.
Lol, as an assignor I really could care less if someone double toots. It just ain't a biggie imo. I do care if they get the call right though.
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 08:17am
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Lol, as an assignor I really could care less if someone double toots.
I figured as much , but from what I've heard, the girls in the lane do care if someone double toots.
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