Jump stop

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

The easiest thing to say to a coach is "It was indeed a jump stop, but it was the illegal version."

Nope, the two easiest things to say imo are:
1) Coach, that's traveling.
2) Coach, that isn't traveling.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Nope, the two easiest things to say imo are:
1) Coach, that's traveling.
2) Coach, that isn't traveling.

I agree with this response. Trying to explain much else is usually useless to a coach.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

So you're saying that if the dribbler catches the ball with both feet off the ground they may land on two feet or one followed by the other but if the dribble is ended with one foot on the floor they may only land on two feet?

CORRECT. If he lands one foot after another, it's traveling.

Originally Posted by pitchfork

All of you are making this way too hard. Coaches(lute Olson, Ralph Miller, Tex Winter and John Wooden come to mid) teach 2 types of jump stops. 1) a one count jump stop( opon landing you may pivot shoot or pass or even execute a step through move where the pivot foot can be lifted) 2) a Two count jump stop(opon landing you have no pivot foot and may shoot or pass or lift one foot to shoot or pass) This terminology, one and two count jump stop while not in the current rulebook has been taught by some of the best coaches since at least the 1930s, and I believe the terms were in the rulebook at one time.60s

Many high school referees call the first example a travel because "it looks like a travel" and because most players at that level can"t execute the move in a leagal manner and it is a travel.

As a ref if you explain it that way most coaches worth having a discussion with will know exactly what you are talking about if they don't you most likely will be wasting your breath no matter what you say.

WTF does a "count" have to do with it?

Personally, I couldn't care less whether the coach understands it or not. I ain't having that convo.

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The funny part about this is that in both cases the player is almost always jumping off of one foot and landing on two, the difference is where they gathered or caught the ball...some of us are just able to recognize this, some apparently not.

Exactly what I was telling Ref from PA above.

[Johnny Ringo]

Boy, a video image of what is legal and illegal here would be great. Anyone out there have the abilty to film what is legal and what is not and post it on the web somewhere?