Jump stop

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

A jump stop is coming to a stop by landing simultaneously on two feet........

after jumping off one foot.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by just another ref

after jumping off one foot.

Fine have it your way...you aren't right, but I don't give a crap.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Fine have it your way...you aren't right, but I don't give a crap.

jump stop...2 words ...a jump then a stop.

Landing simultaneously on two feet is called ...uh....landing simultaneously on two feet. You can land simultaneously on two feet after running, so then it would be called "running then coming to a stop by landing simultaneously on two feet"...or a "running stop"?

Whatever....article 1,2 and 3 still applies and on #3 you have no pivot.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

When the ball is secured without either foot on the floor and the player simply lands on both feet, this, to my knowledge, is not considered a jump stop.

Then your knowledge is wrong.

BZ has tried to explain it to you over and over.

Whether jumping off one foot while ending the dribble or ending the dribble with both feet in the air, when he lands on both feet simultaneously, it is a JUMP STOP.

How he jumped simply indicates whether he can pivot or not.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

It always looks like a traveling violation to me.

Must be a new NBA rule.

I'm still trying to figure out what's a foul in the NBA.

NBA action...It's fantastic

It's not a new NBA rule nor is it traveling.

Since you don't officiate in the NBA, why do you care what a foul is?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by CoachP

jump stop...2 words ...a jump then a stop.

So if that's true, then a high jump would mean the kid is high and then he jumped.

No, it's not two words, it's a compound word. A compound word is a combination of two or more words that function as a single unit of meaning. There are three types of compounds: closed compounds, hyphenated compounds, and open compounds. Jump stop is an example of an open compound word, such as slam dunk. It is a compund word, not two separate words.

Here endeth today's English lesson.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Whether jumping off one foot while ending the dribble or ending the dribble with both feet in the air, when he lands on both feet simultaneously, it is a JUMP STOP.

Says who?




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[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Says who?

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All who aren't ignorant of the fact.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Says who?




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The rule book.

[just another ref]

I did a search of the term and found it considered both ways. My particular interpretation was always that after a jump stop there is no pivot foot. I believe it has been stated here many times, (someone will correct me if I am wrong) the term jump stop does not appear in the NFHS books anywhere.
The only time I have had the term come up in games is a player or coach arguing a travel call: "No, that's a jump stop." There are different uses of the term, but how can either be considered to be wrong.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule book.

Which book? Where? HELP ME!!

[Ref in PA]

At the risk of taking heat ...

It could be that different areas of the country have different definitions for the jump stop.

In my area, the NFHS definition of the Jump Stop is jumping off one foot and landing on two. That is the only context around which I have received training concerning the jump stop. I accept and understand that other areas of the country refer to the jump stop as landing on two feet.

Coach P is correct - the NFHS rule book does not define what a jump stop is specifically. And BZ, since when to we use Google to define basketball terms? We usually defer to the rule book and if it is not specifically defined therein, we accept that. The NCAA may have defined the jump stop specifically, but again, rules and simple nuances have been known to differ between the NCAA and the NFHS.

What is important is to refer to the current rule set for the game to know what is allowed and what is not allowed after getting possession of the ball.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

At the risk of taking heat ...

It could be that different areas of the country have different definitions for the jump stop.

In my area, the NFHS definition of the Jump Stop is jumping off one foot and landing on two. That is the only context around which I have received training concerning the jump stop. I accept and understand that other areas of the country refer to the jump stop as landing on two feet.

Coach P is correct - the NFHS rule book does not define what a jump stop is specifically. And BZ, since when to we use Google to define basketball terms? We usually defer to the rule book and if it is not specifically defined therein, we accept that. The NCAA may have defined the jump stop specifically, but again, rules and simple nuances have been known to differ between the NCAA and the NFHS.

What is important is to refer to the current rule set for the game to know what is allowed and what is not allowed after getting possession of the ball.

Well said. My use and understanding of the term have always been the same as yours. I googled the term simply to find what different perceptions there were, and found that it was indeed used both ways: 1. Jumping off one foot, landing on both simultaneously 2. Simply landing on both feet simultaneously

Originally Posted by just another ref

Which book? 2006 - 07 NFHS Basketball Rules Book
Where? Rule 4 Section 44 Article 2 a & b
HELP ME!! Hope this helps

Page 40 to be exact.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Page 40 to be exact.

I was looking for use of the term jump stop, which is not here, even though apparently one (or more) of these is/are considered to be the definition(s) of the term.