Carrying a weak partner

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

usually a weaker partner is just trying to "survive" the game by trying to get the calls right. he/she can't focus on all the "other stuff" (i.e. game management). that's where you have to step in and handle most, if not all, of those duties. take the pressure off of him or her by talking to/dealing with players, coaches, problem situations, etc. they are too busy officiating to notice lopsided foul counts, players who are becoming a problem, and controlling the benches.

you can't make every call for them (although you may have to "reach" a little now and then).

Why should we care about lopsided foul counts?

Our job is calling what's there, not making the fouls even.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Why should we care about lopsided foul counts?

Our job is calling what's there, not making the fouls even.

You might not ultimately care, but you might want to know what the fuss is about. Also if I have 8 to 1 in fouls, I certainly do not want to miss any fouls against the team that has 8. Having said that the foul count can get to 20 to 1 for all I care. I think good officials are at the very least aware of the disparity. Often times there is a good reason for the foul disparity like one team playing zone and the other team playing a full court press.

Peace

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You might not ultimately care, but you might want to know what the fuss is about. Also if I have 8 to 1 in fouls, I certainly do not want to miss any fouls against the team that has 8. Having said that the foul count can get to 20 to 1 for all I care. I think good officials are at the very least aware of the disparity. Often times there is a good reason for the foul disparity like one team playing zone and the other team playing a full court press.

Peace

We don't need to communicate it's 8-1 with our partners, since we'd be hearing call it both ways and hey ref it's 8-1 from the fans and coaches anyway.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

We don't need to communicate it's 8-1 with our partners, since we'd be hearing call it both ways and hey ref it's 8-1 from the fans and coaches anyway.

I do not think anyone suggested that we communicate with our partners about anything. Game management issues often are things you personally are aware of and we only communicate to our partners when necessary. But a coach going off about the foul count is likely and personally being aware of this will help you answer a question about it or make sure you are calling similar plays all over the court.

Peace

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think anyone suggested that we communicate with our partners about anything. Game management issues often are things you personally are aware of and we only communicate to our partners when necessary. But a coach going off about the foul count is likely and personally being aware of this will help you answer a question about it or make sure you are calling similar plays all over the court.

Peace

You answer a coach yelling foul counts and have to think about it?

WOW.

I basically have two responses:

"Tell your kids to stop fouling."

"Are you saying I'm cheating or incompetent?" "Because I really want to know which T I'll be giving you."

And I'm going to continue calling what is there and not start looking for stuff to make the scoreboard look better.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

You answer a coach yelling foul counts and have to think about it?

WOW.

I basically have two responses:

"Tell your kids to stop fouling."

"Are you saying I'm cheating or incompetent?" "Because I really want to know which T I'll be giving you."

And I'm going to continue calling what is there and not start looking for stuff to make the scoreboard look better.

Who said anything about thinking about it?

To me foul counts are no different than being aware of who is jawing at each other and nipping that in the bud.

Do not blow things out of portion, what we call "game management" are things that we should be aware of in order to keep things smooth. If a coach is constantly gripping about something you should address it eventually or things might go in a direction you do not want it to go.

Peace

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Who said anything about thinking about it?

To me foul counts are no different than being aware of who is jawing at each other and nipping that in the bud.

Do not blow things out of portion, what we call "game management" are things that we should be aware of in order to keep things smooth. If a coach is constantly gripping about something you should address it eventually or things might go in a direction you do not want it to go.

Peace

BS...There is no reason to be aware of foul counts, none.

Coaches yapping about it, you address the yapping, not the foul count causing the yapping.

As for game management, I'll nip that in the bud too.

Coach A is yapping about foul counts...suddenly JRut "finds" a couple of fouls on team B, since he's now aware of a foul disperity...coach B sees this and you know what happens?

Now you have two coaches yapping...your game management just got harder.

I suppose the howler monkey yelling 3 seconds every trip has you scanning the paint, making sure you haven't missed the big guy toasting marshmellows, too?