NBA Stars getting foul calls?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Statements like this are the reason you have very little credibility on this site.

I am not here to win a popularity contest. Since you have no effect on what happens in my life, I really don’t care what you or the rest think. Just remember one thing, it’s not a one-way street. It’s more like a double edge sword, it’s cuts both ways. I going to speak for the moderators here. I’m sure they would rather you keep negative comments like this to yourself. It doesn’t help the forum, and it invites confrontation that makes them have to work harder. My credibility is not on trial here, but you and some of the others insist on making it a point of interest. One more thing, since you are so worried about what others think, how can you call a game fair?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And Men's basketball is certainly not the same as Women's basketball and that would not make the NBA and WNBA are not the same.

Huh, english please????

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Once again you are not addressing the issue that I stated. This is not about consistency at all. The point is that a superstar did not "get a call." I thought the NBA always set it up so that the "superstars" would get the benefit of the doubt. When I listen to the pundits on the radio and on TV and then even that philosophy changes with the wind. Then I hear that Lebron has not earned it and if he was Magic, Bird or Jordan he would have gotten the call. The bottom line is all that is a bunch of crap.

Okay, the meat of your argument. Why didn’t you just come here right away instead of all the blah, blah, blah above and below this. If you recall what I originally stated, I agreed with you. However, a problem you are going to have to answer for yourself is. Why is this not a foul in Detroit but when the series returns to Cleveland it will be? LeBron will get these calls in Cleveland, you can believe that. This begs the question, do we have homer referee’s in the NBA? You say this is not about consistency. We’ll see when the series returns to Cleveland because if it’s a no-call in Detroit then it better be a no-call in Cleveland, otherwise the NBA officials are having some consistency issues.

For me, I’m just a fan looking for a good game. Don’t have a dog in either fight. I would love to see a good series without the attention switching to the officiating. Kind of like the Magic/Bird series, the Pistons/Lakers series or even the Portland (Bill Walton)/ 76ers series. I want the players to decide the game. I want bb to be the topic and not the officiating or conspiracy thinking. You fail to make obvious calls, then here we go. To me, if it’s a foul in the regular season, then it should be a foul in the playoff’s. It should not matter if it’s a superstar or the 10th player on the bench. Just call the freaking game.

Somebody needs to be suspended or fined for that push-off that Wallace got away with. Seeing that on replay and we should have had a whistle on that. Missing this is evidence that something is afoul in the association which I’m not going there. Maybe, the association needs to get Joey off the bench because we know he’s not afraid to call a foul on a superstar.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

My credibility is not on trial here, but you and some of the others insist on making it a point of interest.

Somebody needs to be suspended or fined for that push-off that Wallace got away with.

If your credibility was on trial, JMO, it woulda been hung months ago. This is just typical of your idiocy. Suspend an official for missing one call? Un-freaking- believable!

Silly monkey......

[JRutledge]

[QUOTE=Old School]I am not here to win a popularity contest. Since you have no effect on what happens in my life, I really don’t care what you or the rest think. Just remember one thing, it’s not a one-way street. It’s more like a double edge sword, it’s cuts both ways. I going to speak for the moderators here. I’m sure they would rather you keep negative comments like this to yourself. It doesn’t help the forum, and it invites confrontation that makes them have to work harder. My credibility is not on trial here, but you and some of the others insist on making it a point of interest. One more thing, since you are so worried about what others think, how can you call a game fair?

You do not know basic stuff. I do not care what everyone thinks about you. You have no crediblity because everytime you make a post, it comes from a place where no one has heard anything you are saying before. It is like you make it up as you go along.

Originally Posted by Old School

Huh, english please????

HELLOOOO!!!!!! MEN'S AND WOMEN'S BASKETBALL ARE NOT THE SAME DAMN THING. THE FACT THAT YOU COMPARED SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT OFFICIATING!!!1

Originally Posted by Old School

Okay, the meat of your argument. Why didn’t you just come here right away instead of all the blah, blah, blah above and below this. If you recall what I originally stated, I agreed with you. However, a problem you are going to have to answer for yourself is. Why is this not a foul in Detroit but when the series returns to Cleveland it will be? LeBron will get these calls in Cleveland, you can believe that. This begs the question, do we have homer referee’s in the NBA? You say this is not about consistency. We’ll see when the series returns to Cleveland because if it’s a no-call in Detroit then it better be a no-call in Cleveland, otherwise the NBA officials are having some consistency issues.

My point of making this post was more rhetorical than anything. I personally do not care what others think about the play one way or the other. I just find it funny that superstars are accused of always getting the fouls and one of the biggest did not get a call in one of the biggest games of the year. I think the officials working the game thought there was no foul and that is why they called nothing. Who cares if this took place in Detroit (another common myth). The officials get paid by the NBA not by Detroit. The NBA is not amateur ball when the school or host school cuts the check. Even working some college conferences you will get a check from the conference office.

Originally Posted by Old School

For me, I’m just a fan looking for a good game. Don’t have a dog in either fight. I would love to see a good series without the attention switching to the officiating. Kind of like the Magic/Bird series, the Pistons/Lakers series or even the Portland (Bill Walton)/ 76ers series. I want the players to decide the game. I want bb to be the topic and not the officiating or conspiracy thinking. You fail to make obvious calls, then here we go. To me, if it’s a foul in the regular season, then it should be a foul in the playoff’s. It should not matter if it’s a superstar or the 10th player on the bench. Just call the freaking game.

Once again just like a fan you have not once talked about this from the standpoint of an official. If it was a foul on Lebron, you have to do better than say, "he got hammered." If you go to camp and use that line, they will cross you off immediately. But you should know that right? Officials do not make calls because there is contact; they make calls based on if something illegal took place. And to do so is being a fan and in many people's eyes is considered unprofessional. You come here all the time telling us what the officials should have done but you have not proven that you can even work a HS game.

Originally Posted by Old School

Somebody needs to be suspended or fined for that push-off that Wallace got away with. Seeing that on replay and we should have had a whistle on that. Missing this is evidence that something is afoul in the association which I’m not going there. Maybe, the association needs to get Joey off the bench because we know he’s not afraid to call a foul on a superstar.

And this comment is the very reason you constantly get crap from others all over the place. Now the guy who cannot work more than an intramural game wants to tell the NBA (which is a level you will never work) how they discipline officials. Work a HS game before you get so big and bad about what the big timers should do or not do.

Peace

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

You do not know basic stuff.

I notice this term gets thrown around quite often on this forum. When someone has a different opinion the first thing you want to say is you don’t know basics. I have referee for over 15 years and played the game twice as long as that. How many years does it take before you learn the basics? I remember a movie, don’t recall the name, but a senior African American, in his 70’s after being called a boy, had a great line. How old to I have to be before I am no longer a boy?

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

I do not care what everyone thinks about you.

Then why do you keep mentioning it? It has nothing to do with your topic.

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

You have no crediblity because everytime you make a post, it comes from a place where no one has heard anything you are saying before. It is like you make it up as you go along.

Thank you, that’s the whole point of engaging the forum and sharing. There’s no point in engaging the subject if you have nothing different to say. Challenging the topic often makes for good discussion provided people can put there personal differences aside long enough to debate the subject. I do not understand why so many of you take things so personal, shoot the messenger mentality.

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

HELLOOOO!!!!!! MEN'S AND WOMEN'S BASKETBALL ARE NOT THE SAME DAMN THING. THE FACT THAT YOU COMPARED SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT OFFICIATING!!!

No, you just showed the world how small your brain is and how little you know about the sport in general. I was comparing how one coach made a public statement about the officiating and was able to get calls in his favor, thus helping his team win a championship. Right now, the only thing LeBron needs is a coach that has respect around the league. The pieces are there, they can win with this team. However, you’re not going to win any championship if the referee’s don’t respect you enough to call a foul. Remember the mad respect Miami got from the ref’s last year. You don’t think Dwayne Wade got a call or two down the stretch to help his team win that series.

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

I think the officials working the game thought there was no foul and that is why they called nothing. Who cares if this took place in Detroit (another common myth). The officials get paid by the NBA not by Detroit. The NBA is not amateur ball when the school or host school cuts the check.

Another point that shows your ignorance. The officials do get paid by the NBA Office, but who do you think pays the NBA office? The teams you moron, and they pay quite handsomely.

Originally Posted by JRuthledge

You come here all the time telling us what the officials should have done but you have not proven that you can even work a HS game. Now the guy who cannot work more than an intramural game wants to tell the NBA (which is a level you will never work)

You would be surprised……
Have a nice day.