Whats the world comming to?

[Adam]

Just a thought, but maybe you could have told them to quit the talking sooner.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just a thought, but maybe you could have told them to quit the talking sooner.

I tried. I gave multiple warnings, I grab 2 players and told them to not talk to here other anymore, but the minute they lined up next to each other on the F/T line, there was a conversation going on. Since it was not obvious, no one suspected the worse except me. One other thing, you really can't give a technical to a player and you don't hear what he actually says, even if you suspect the worse. I guess I have never seen a group of players politely and softly go about it in the way that was done here, never, but my suspicion was confirmed.

[Adam]

Yes, you can give them a T. It might be a case where you stop everything and warn them, if you so much as here "nice shot" directed to an opponent, it's a technical foul. Tell the coaches if you must.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yes, you can give them a T. It might be a case where you stop everything and warn them, if you so much as here "nice shot" directed to an opponent, it's a technical foul. Tell the coaches if you must.

Not going there Snaqs, maybe you will give a player a T for saying nice shot, but not me. That will never happen in my game. I'm not looking to overofficiate the game, just manage it, that's all. If the players are being polite to one another, that is what I want. However, the point here is to pay attention to the players. Get in there and listen if you have too. I have had games come down to F/T's and players on the line or directly behind the shooter, say things you would not believe, like if you make this shot, I'm going to kick your a$$. If you're standing way over there by the sideline, you will not even know a conversation is taken place. The OP didn't think something was wrong in his game. Well he was wrong and both him and his partner missed the signs from the players that something wasn't right.

[Adam]

most games, you're right. But if you know they're trash talking, you have the right to step in and stop it; even if it's mumbling. Simply tell them and the coaches you know what's going on and that you're not going to tolerate it. By you're own admission, you didn't manage this game well. Maybe this game would have devolved no matter what, and there's no way it could have been managed well. If it's obvious to you that these kids aren't complimenting each other under their breath, make the call.
You have no way of judging the OPs game and whether or not he missed signs. Just because you didn't deal with the signs in your game doesn't mean he missed some in his. Sometimes, this stuff happens with no warning at all.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You have no way of judging the OPs game and whether or not he missed signs. Just because you didn't deal with the signs in your game doesn't mean he missed some in his. Sometimes, this stuff happens with no warning at all.

You sound like you have no managing skills whatsoever. I'm not saying the OP screwed up, I'm just saying if some kid gets his head beat in to the point of unconsiousness, and has to be rushed to the hospital, you didn't do your job very well as an official, period. If I'm the assigner, I'm probably not going to assign you anymore games, period. As far as my game. I did deal with it. I didn't turn my head like you and the rest. I didn't go wine to the coaches, your players are whistering to one another and I didn't bring BS into the game by calling unnecessary TF's. I dealt with it, I got thru it, and no ambulance needed to be called afterwards and even got thanked by several parents afterwards, not one. Now, deal with that!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

You sound like you have no managing skills whatsoever. I'm not saying the OP screwed up, I'm just saying if some kid gets his head beat in to the point of unconsiousness, and has to be rushed to the hospital, you didn't do your job very well as an official, period. If I'm the assigner, I'm probably not going to assign you anymore games, period.

That's complete and utter udder. The OP said that nothing previously had happened. What kind of job the official had done is not a factor in any way in this situation. And no assignor anywhere, including the rec leagues that you solely work, would ever lay any blame on to the official. If he tried doing that, he wouldn't have any officials left to assign anyway.

Why do you people waste your time arguing with this goober? He'll never change...or learn.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

I'm not saying the OP screwed up, I'm just saying if some kid gets his head beat in to the point of unconsiousness, and has to be rushed to the hospital, you didn't do your job very well as an official, period.

You've had some real weird posts in your short history here. This, however, might just take the cake.

I don't give a monkey's arm pit if the parents offered to take you out for dinner and pay for your college. It's irrelevant.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

You sound like you have no managing skills whatsoever. I'm not saying the OP screwed up, I'm just saying if some kid gets his head beat in to the point of unconsiousness, and has to be rushed to the hospital, you didn't do your job very well as an official, period. If I'm the assigner, I'm probably not going to assign you anymore games, period.

Right there is where you blamed the official, Old School. You can't keep your own stories straight, as usual.

As Larry said, you're a complete idiot.