Bonehead play of the week.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

14.06 seconds remaining in the second half

I know this doesn't really matter to your situation, but did the clock really display hundredths of a second? I don't think I've ever seen that on a basketball clock.

As for the elbow, I'd go with the intentional T, but not flagrant. If it hit the head, then flagrant; but in the ribs, I don't think so.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I know this doesn't really matter to your situation, but did the clock really display hundredths of a second? I don't think I've ever seen that on a basketball clock.

As for the elbow, I'd go with the intentional T, but not flagrant. If it hit the head, then flagrant; but in the ribs, I don't think so.

There is a high school in the Toledo area that when the clock goes under one minute and the clock stops it shows hundredths of a second.

MTD, Sr.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

There is a high school in the Toledo area that when the clock goes under one minute and the clock stops it shows hundredths of a second.

Did some games at a college that shows hundredths of a second as well. I didn't like it; it was made by the Hamilton Scoreboard Company. They have a new clock now. I'll be at that gym this weekend.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

14.06 seconds remaining in the second half - we were playing 14 minute halves.

How can you have more time remaining that what you started the half with?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by dblref

How can you have more time remaining that what you started the half with?

I hope that clears up your question.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I hope that clears up your question.

Yep, your explanation and my 4th cup of coffee cleared it up.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

I still have the ball and I am just getting ready to step in and stop the jostling for position when A2 looks up to B3 and nails him in the side with an elbow that disables him for a second.
I put the whistle in my mouth give it a tweet, make sure we do not have any retaliation and head to the table ...?
What do you have?

Judgment call on your part as to if it is flagrant or not. If it's a basketball play, in other words, he's working to get position, I would just call a technical. If he went outside the bounds of keeping it basketball related, I would call flagrant. The thing about flagrant, if you're going to call that, make sure there's no doubt that the act was to injured or hurt the player. For ex: I had a game where B2 foul A1 and while A1 was picking himself up off the floor and my partner was reporting the foul to the table with his back turned to the players, B2 punched A1 in the face. There is no doubt, there was nothing basketball related to that play. The intent was to injure.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Old School

Judgment call on your part as to if it is flagrant or not. If it's a basketball play, in other words, he's working to get position, I would just call a technical.

If it's a "basketball play" then it's not going to be a technical. A dead ball contact techical can only be intentional or flagrant. A "basketball play" is neither.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If it's a "basketball play" then it's not going to be a technical. A dead ball contact techical can only be intentional or flagrant. A "basketball play" is neither.

I think we might be a little too technical here. My point was in judging flagrant or not.

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[Adam]

Damm, those pesky rules terms. Geez, Bob.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Old School

I think we might be a little too technical here.

Nice pun.

My point was in judging flagrant or not.

Then you need to use words that indicate that is what you are trying to convey.

I don't mean to make this personal, but more than once you have used a phrase, been called on it, and then the subsequent discussion makes it seem as if you "misquoted yourself." And, since, imo, your rules knowledge is suspect, it's hard to tell which is which.

So, in this thread, rather than your saying "I would just call a technical" you should have said, "I would have delayed making the ball live and admonished the players" (or something like that).

[Old School]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Then you need to use words that indicate that is what you are trying to convey.

I don't mean to make this personal, but more than once you have used a phrase, been called on it, and then the subsequent discussion makes it seem as if you "misquoted yourself." And, since, imo, your rules knowledge is suspect, it's hard to tell which is which.

So, in this thread, rather than your saying "I would just call a technical" you should have said, "I would have delayed making the ball live and admonished the players" (or something like that).

Point taken and thanks for the English lesson. I keep forgetting. I keep thinking this is a public forum but really it isn't. Everytime someone from the general public comes out here, their opinions are attacked on a personal level and then asked to leave.

I think too much emphasis is put on who is saying it and not what is being said. A problem I noticed this culture tends to have. It's not about what is said but more who said it. I always like the movie where the president of the company takes a job at the lower level so that he can get to know the people from the ground up. It's amazing what you learn about people in a setting like this. For ex: you learn who the people are that have personal agendas, who are 2-faced, that are out for their own. You learn who you can trust and who you can't. Then a miracle happens and you meet a honest person who treats everyone the same, who respects everyone he/she meets. These are the type of people you want running your company.

No, this is really not a public forum because the general public is not welcome here. It is a private forum with a public interface. The motto here is shoot the messenger, first, and then ask questions. Kind of goes to your 2nd paragraph, wouldn't you say Bob.