Billy Packer Gay Slur

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Wasn't it the Flintstomes who used to "have a gay old time"?

Geeze you're right.

That explains a lot...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Here is what Dicitionary.com has to say about the verb fag:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
fag1 /fæg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fag] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, fagged, fag·ging, noun
–verb (used with object) 1. to tire or weary by labor; exhaust (often fol. by out): The long climb fagged us out.
2. British. to require (a younger public-school pupil) to do menial chores.
3. Nautical. to fray or unlay the end of (a rope).
–verb (used without object) 4. Chiefly British. to work until wearied; work hard: to fag away at French.
5. British Informal. to do menial chores for an older public-school pupil.
–noun 6. Slang. a cigarette.
7. a fag end, as of cloth.
8. a rough or defective spot in a woven fabric; blemish; flaw.
9. Chiefly British. drudgery; toil.
10. British Informal. a younger pupil in a British public school required to perform certain menial tasks for, and submit to the hazing of, an older pupil.
11. a drudge.


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[Origin: 1425–75; late ME fagge broken thread in cloth, loose end (of obscure orig.); sense development appar.: drooping end > to droop, tire > to make weary > drudgery, drudge (cf. relationship of flag1 to flag3); (def. 6) a shortening of fag end (a butt, hence a cigarette)]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source fag 1 (fāg) Pronunciation Key
n.

A student at a British public school who is required to perform menial tasks for a student in a higher class.
A drudge.
Chiefly British Fatiguing or tedious work; drudgery.

v. fagged, fag·ging, fags

v. intr.

To work to exhaustion; toil.
To function as the servant of another student in a British public school.

v. tr.
To exhaust; weary: Four hours on the tennis court fagged me out.


[From fag, to droop (obsolete), perhaps from Middle English fagge; see fag end.]


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WordNet - Cite This Source fagged

adjective
drained of energy or effectiveness; extremely tired; completely exhausted; "the day's shopping left her exhausted"; "he went to bed dog-tired"; "was fagged and sweaty"; "the trembling of his played out limbs"; "felt completely washed-out"; "only worn-out horses and cattle"; "you look worn out" [syn: exhausted]

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I hope this puts an end to the idea that this was a gay slur. To be honest, I did not know the complete definition of the word, except that it was British slang for cigarette, until now. I am glad I looked up its definition, because now I have added a new word to my vocabulary. I guess this dog is not too old to learn new tricks.

MTD, Sr.

[Corndog89]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

...Dictionary.com 6. Slang. a cigarette...
MTD, Sr.

When I was in HS one of our standard lines when a guy would start to smoke a cigarette was "You gonna blow a fag?" How great is sophmoric humor? A little knowledge in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not a Billy Packer fan. But his comments had little to do with being gay.

fag out
v : exhaust or tire though overuse or great strain or stress;
"We wore ourselves out on this hike" [syn: tire, wear
upon, tire out, wear, weary, jade, wear out, outwear,
wear down, fag, fatigue] [ant: refresh]

Here is a definition of the term he used. I am sure if folks would just read a dictionary or do an internet search, you would understand the term. Not every word has just one meaning. Also Charlie Rose is a smart guy, he did not react negatively at all about the comment.

Peace

I agree.

Billy Packer deserves all the minor grief that comes his way, but this is just plain stupid. I believe 'fag out' is actually British slang that's been around forever.

btw...it took me a long time to convince myself that typing "packer gay slur" into google would be a wise thing to do...

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not a Billy Packer fan. But his comments had little to do with being gay.

fag out
v : exhaust or tire though overuse or great strain or stress;
"We wore ourselves out on this hike" [syn: tire, wear
upon, tire out, wear, weary, jade, wear out, outwear,
wear down, fag, fatigue] [ant: refresh]

Here is a definition of the term he used. I am sure if folks would just read a dictionary or do an internet search, you would understand the term. Not every word has just one meaning. Also Charlie Rose is a smart guy, he did not react negatively at all about the comment.

Peace

Thanks for being the first to do some research.
What an absurd accusation about a basketball icon that has helped make college basketball.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Thanks for being the first to do some research.
What an absurd accusation about a basketball icon that has helped make college basketball.

i would double and triple check this claim

[BktBallRef]

LOL! A basketball icon?

The man simply loves to hear himself talk and knows nothing of the rules of the game.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

LOL! A basketball icon?

The man simply loves to hear himself talk and knows nothing of the rules of the game.

Really?

So when Packer explained why Oden got the two early fouls in the Georgetown game while the sportswriters were castigating the officials for "taking the game away from the fans" he was just talking to himself?

It is interesting, but not surprising, that you guys cannot stand criticism from
those who are not officials, but can be so virulent towards a profession in which you have no expertise.

Frankly, reading the comments of many on here who second guess their refereeing brethern based solely on TV coverage, makes me wonder about your professionalism.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Frankly, reading the comments of many on here who second guess their refereeing brethern based solely on TV coverage, makes me wonder about your professionalism.

When I read your comment about Packer having helped make college basketball I wondered about your sanity.

If Billy Packer were never born college basketball would not be 1 bit different than what it is today.

Billy Packer could disappear from the face of the earth tomorrow and college basketball would not skip a single beat.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Really?

It is interesting, but not surprising, that you guys cannot stand criticism from
those who are not officials, but can be so virulent towards a profession in which you have no expertise.

It's also not surprising that you dick-headed, know-nothing, clueless fanboys show up here every year whining about something that you know absolutely nothing about. It's also not very interesting either. Ergo, piss off back to your La-Z-Boy and your channel changer, and resume doing what you do when you're not here annoying us.

Iow, piss off.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Really?

So when Packer explained why Oden got the two early fouls in the Georgetown game while the sportswriters were castigating the officials for "taking the game away from the fans" he was just talking to himself?

It is interesting, but not surprising, that you guys cannot stand criticism from
those who are not officials, but can be so virulent towards a profession in which you have no expertise.

Frankly, reading the comments of many on here who second guess their refereeing brethern based solely on TV coverage, makes me wonder about your professionalism.

OK, since I work in the area of broadcast, does that mean that I can criticize him? Based upon your previous comment - I say yes.

Billy Packer is horrible. I do not know of a single announcer - and there are at LEAST a dozen others in my company - that thinks Billy Packer is any good at all. Obviously, you think he's talented so please explain to us one innovation that he has done to "make" college basketball. As for your other comment - Dean Smith, Bobby Knight, Coach K, Joe B Hall, John Wooden - all icons. Sportscasters? Chris Berman, Jon Miller, Curt Goudy, Brent Musberger - even Dickie V would all be iconic. Billy Packer? Is a guy who has held on to a position waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past his prime (if he ever had a prime). Please tell us what you think makes him an icon?

You say we shouldn't criticize a profession that we know nothing about but yet you criticize us? Sheeeeeesh!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Really?

So when Packer explained why Oden got the two early fouls in the Georgetown game while the sportswriters were castigating the officials for "taking the game away from the fans" he was just talking to himself?

It is interesting, but not surprising, that you guys cannot stand criticism from
those who are not officials, but can be so virulent towards a profession in which you have no expertise.

Frankly, reading the comments of many on here who second guess their refereeing brethern based solely on TV coverage, makes me wonder about your professionalism.

It is very clear that you do not work basketball. You might work some baseball and softball, but I know how much easier that is to working basketball. I think you are out of your league on this topic. If you see Packer as a great guy that is OK, but he clearly gets basic things wrong when he opens his mouth. You do not have to agree; after all you are not a basketball official. I would not expect much else from you frankly.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

a basketball icon that has helped make college basketball.

Seriously?
This explains a lot. Thanks.