Warning!! Danger!! Annual Off-topic Baseball Thread '07!! Beware!!

[Nevadaref]

Game 4
Cleveland 7, Boston 3

It looks as if the Sox will be fortunate to get the series back to Boston.

Now where's my Chief Wahoo? Found it.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Game 4
Cleveland 7, Boston 3

It looks as if the Sox will be fortunate to get the series back to Boston.

I disagree completely. Have you checked the starters for Game 5? Beckett's going on full rest. We're going back to Boston.

Very disappointing last night, tho. 4 no-hit innings and then 7 runs in the 5th. The worst part about that was that the inning could've been over with only 1 run in if Wakefield hadn't deflected the double play ball that was headed right to Pedroia.

First time a team has gone back-to-back-to-back HRs in the ALCS. Big whoop.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I disagree completely. Have you checked the starters for Game 5? Beckett's going on full rest. We're going back to Boston.

You're disregarding the "Manny" factor. He pissed the Indians off completely last night with his styling. Methinks they'll be trying just that little bit harder now to stick it up his butt.

[mick]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I disagree completely. Have you checked the starters for Game 5? Beckett's going on full rest. We're going back to Boston.

Very disappointing last night, tho. 4 no-hit innings and then 7 runs in the 5th. The worst part about that was that the inning could've been over with only 1 run in if Wakefield hadn't deflected the double play ball that was headed right to Pedroia.

First time a team has gone back-to-back-to-back HRs in the ALCS. Big whoop.

Yer funny !
If, if, if.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I disagree completely. Have you checked the starters for Game 5? Beckett's going on full rest. We're going back to Boston.

Your Bosox have a chance to stay in the game as long as Beckett's doing his thing. However, Sabathia is going for the Tribe, and he will keep the Indians in the game.

The starters match up well, but what about the bullpens? See you in the 11th?

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I disagree completely. Have you checked the starters for Game 5? Beckett's going on full rest. We're going back to Boston.

We should just skip game 5 then.

Have you checked the starters for Game 5? I wouldn't discount CCs ability to win this game. And I believe he's on full rest too.


Oh yeah, go tribe!

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by BLydic

We should just skip game 5 then.

Fine by me. Beckett in Game 6 in Boston?

Have you checked the starters for Game 5? I wouldn't discount CCs ability to win this game. And I believe he's on full rest too.

I'm not discounting his ability to win it. It's certainly possible. I just think it's very unlikely, given Beckett's history. C.C. is a good pitcher, no question, but would I have as much confidence in him as in Beckett? Not even close.

I will say this. You guys better win tonight. If we go back to Boston, I think you'll be sweating it out.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Fine by me. Beckett in Game 6 in Boston?

I'm not discounting his ability to win it. It's certainly possible. I just think it's very unlikely, given Beckett's history. C.C. is a good pitcher, no question, but would I have as much confidence in him as in Beckett? Not even close.

I will say this. You guys better win tonight. If we go back to Boston, I think you'll be sweating it out.

LOL, no the deal is we skip game 5 and Beckett is done.

Beckett started 30 games with a 20 - 7 record. He pitched 200.2 innings, gave up 40 walks and had 194 K's with an ERA of 3.27. CC started 34 games with a 19-7 record. He pitched 241.0 innings, gave up 37 walks and had 209 K's with an ERA of 3.21. Seems kinda close to me.

Sure, I'll start to sweat it out IF we go back to Boston, but right now it's calm, cool and collected. You?

[mick]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Sure, I'll start to sweat it out IF we go back to Boston, but right now it's calm, cool and collected. You?

Noticed, eh?
I think that Chuck is almost in Patriots mode.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by mick

Noticed, eh?
I think that Chuck is almost in Patriots mode.

Not that that's a bad mode to get in right now. I know it's early, but who is going to beat the Pats?

I was mildly surprised that Manny Ramirez was saying that if Boston loses, it's no big deal, there's always next year.

[psujaye]

Originally Posted by BLydic

LOL, no the deal is we skip game 5 and Beckett is done.

Beckett started 30 games with a 20 - 7 record. He pitched 200.2 innings, gave up 40 walks and had 194 K's with an ERA of 3.27. CC started 34 games with a 19-7 record. He pitched 241.0 innings, gave up 37 walks and had 209 K's with an ERA of 3.21. Seems kinda close to me.

Sure, I'll start to sweat it out IF we go back to Boston, but right now it's calm, cool and collected. You?

You've got no reason to worry. I'm a sox fan and I'm sticking with them, but Cleveland is playing lights-out right now. Starting pitching, bullpen, timely hitting. its the recipe for a trip to the WS.
Although 6&7 are in Boston, i'm uneasy about having Dice pitch a possible game 7.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I'm not discounting his ability to win it. It's certainly possible. I just think it's very unlikely, given Beckett's history. C.C. is a good pitcher, no question, but would I have as much confidence in him as in Beckett? Not even close.

The statistics already quoted demonstrate your bias: you simply know Beckett and don't know Sabathia. This explains your (misplaced) confidence.

This year, head to head vs. Johan Santana (Cy Young for life, it seems), we have: Sabathia 3, Santana 0.

The advantage Beckett has is that he has shown up for the post-season, and Sabathia has yet to. The Red Sox will not, however, win a series if the only Indians pitcher they can beat is Sabathia.

My prediction is that the ace of the pennant winner will get the Cy Young this year, regardless of who wins tonight.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by mbyron

This year, head to head vs. Johan Santana (Cy Young for life, it seems), we have: Sabathia 3, Santana 0.

Did you notice the team that Santana had around him this year? They finished four games under .500 and Santana finished 2 over .500. So you're psyched about beating a .500 pitcher on a below-average team three times? Hey, good for your guy.

you simply know Beckett and don't know Sabathia. This explains your (misplaced) confidence.

Um, no. . .

The advantage Beckett has is that he has shown up for the post-season, and Sabathia has yet to.

This explains my confidence.

My prediction is that the ace of the pennant winner will get the Cy Young this year, regardless of who wins tonight.

I believe that the voting for all MLB's awards (except for those pertaining specifically to the postseason series) is completed by the end of the regular season. The outcome of this (or any playoff) series will have no effect on the Cy Young or MVP balloting. (I think!)

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by BLydic

We should just skip game 5 then.

Have you checked the starters for Game 5? I wouldn't discount CCs ability to win this game. And I believe he's on full rest too.

I hate to say "I told you so". Actually, I don't hate to say it at all. Enjoy the flight to Boston.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I hate to say "I told you so". Actually, I don't hate to say it at all. Enjoy the flight to Boston.

What else were you going to say? I would have enjoyed telling you the same thing if tonight worked out the way I envisioned.

Best pitcher won. Everything went right for the sox and nothing went right for the tribe. Funny how that stuff seems to turn on a dime.

Oh well, here we come Chuck. See you Saturday.