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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 02:58pm
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The situation is different under NCAA rules. Rule 9-5.1, which defines the throw-in violation, says that a thrower-in shall not

b. Fail to pass the ball directly into the playing court so that after it
crosses the boundary line, it touches or is touched by another player
(inbounds or out of bounds) on the playing court before going out of
bounds.

Rule 9-5.2b says that no player other than the thrower-in shall:

b. Be out of bounds when he or she touches or is touched by the ball
after it has crossed the vertical inside plane of the boundary line.
Repeated infractions shall result in an indirect technical foul.

So the violation described would be, under NCAA rules, a violation on B2 and not on B1. As such, the ensuing throw-in by A would be on the sideline near B's bench.
Right conclusion, wrong reason.

If you try to teach this play using your rationale of which player committed the violation, you will fail to reach the proper conclusion under NFHS rules.

The NFHS has the same provisions for the thrower and other players as the NCAA.
9-2-2 . . . The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched.

9-2-10 . . . No player shall be out of bounds when he/she touches or is touched by the ball after it has been released on a throw-in pass.

So under NFHS rules the violation is also committed by B2, but the ball is not awarded at the location of B2.

Therefore, you must teach officials to consult the penalty section for the infringed rule. The NFHS rules book specifically states to award the ball to the opponent at the original throw-in spot for the violation of any article of 9-2. In this case it is article 10 which is being broken.

The penalty provided in the NCAA rules book is quite different:

NCAA
Rule 9, Section 15.
Floor-Violation Penalties (Applies only to Rules 9-3 through 9-13)
Art. 1. The ball shall become dead or remain dead when a violation occurs. The ball shall be awarded to a nearby opponent for a throw-in at a designated spot nearest to where the violation occurred.

So where the violation occurred is ONLY important in an NCAA game. Under NFHS rules what is important is that any provision of the throw-in provided in 9-2 was infringed. That is the way it should be explained to people.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 08:58pm
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Right conclusion, wrong reason.
Thanks for polishing my post. I had consulted the penalty section of the rulebook, but neglected to include it in my post.
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