Passed ball situation

ElPanadero · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 20, 2005, 11:01am

Here's the situation. Bases loaded, 2 outs. Passed 3rd strike. Runner at 3rd takes off for home, tags home before catcher gets to ball. Catcher picks up ball at backstop and throws to 1B. Throw is short, BR makes it to 1st safely. The runner that was originally at 1B is totally confused and is standing halfway between 1B and 2B. The first basemen sees this and throws to 2B for the third out.

My question is: does the run count. And, if it does, why?

bob jenkins · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 20, 2005, 11:18am

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Originally posted by ElPanadero
Here's the situation. Bases loaded, 2 outs. Passed 3rd strike. Runner at 3rd takes off for home, tags home before catcher gets to ball. Catcher picks up ball at backstop and throws to 1B. Throw is short, BR makes it to 1st safely. The runner that was originally at 1B is totally confused and is standing halfway between 1B and 2B. The first basemen sees this and throws to 2B for the third out.

My question is: does the run count. And, if it does, why?

The run does not count. R1 was forced from first and was put out before reaching second.

LMan · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 20, 2005, 11:19am

Run cannot score on a force out. (FED 9-1(b))

UmpJM · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 20, 2005, 11:21am

ElPanadero,

The run does not score because the third out of the inning was made by a force out on the same "play/pitch" that the runner reached home.

JM

ElPanadero · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 20, 2005, 11:38am

Thanks for the clarification. The rule is simple enough, it was just the situation that was confusing. The runner literally scored several seconds BEFORE the out was made.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Great site!