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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 08:44pm
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Announcers Said He Traveled

The final shot in the Hoya game. I am so tired of these announcers who don't know the rule. They kep talking about how his left foot was the pivot foot and that as soon as he lifted it, he traveled. Why won't these networks just hire an official that knows the rules? Drives me crazy. It was mainly Seth Davis.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:43pm
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The final shot in the Hoya game. I am so tired of these announcers who don't know the rule. They kep talking about how his left foot was the pivot foot and that as soon as he lifted it, he traveled. Why won't these networks just hire an official that knows the rules? Drives me crazy. It was mainly Seth Davis.
If your's is the same play that I recall, I thought he may have lifted his pivot before he released the ball for his dribble.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:46pm
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If your's is the same play that I recall, I thought he may have lifted his pivot before he released the ball for his dribble.
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No...they were saying that he lifted the pivot foot right before the shot and thus a travel
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IMO, his left foot was the pivot foot. Not only did he lift it; It was switch throughout the movement. He stepped and pivot on the right foot turning towards the lane lifting the left. Then, he stepped (with left) and pivot towards the baseline with the left resulting in the successful shot.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:53pm
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Left was his pivot (this is all after he recoved the ball)....spun to the left, brought his right foot around, lifted his left foot in the air as he went to the right, then shot the ball before his left foot came back down.

(By the way, this part is from memory---I might have changed the feet by mistake, but you should get my drift)--Edit.

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IMO, his left foot was the pivot foot. Not only did he lift it; It was switch throughout the movement. He stepped and pivot on the right foot turning towards the lane lifting the left. Then, he stepped (with left) and pivot towards the baseline with the left resulting in the successful shot.
Yes, he went to his right foot as he spun, but the left foot did not return to the floor before he shot the ball.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:59pm
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Oh my goodness. They are talking about him changing his pivot and it should have been a walk at HALFTIME of the USC/UNC game. They still think it should be a walk when he lifted his pivot foot. I bet every basketball official in the country is beside himself (and to the PC out there, herself) right now.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:01pm
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I saw the game live at a restaurant where the sound was muted so I missed the first round of live comments. But Gumble and his buddies just stated that it was "clearly a walk" during the halftime show of the late game. How long until the fanboys are debating this on YouTube?
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:48pm
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If your's is the same play that I recall, I thought he may have lifted his pivot before he released the ball for his dribble.

I saw this as well...
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:27pm
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If your's is the same play that I recall, I thought he may have lifted his pivot before he released the ball for his dribble.
I know the real Mr. Grammar Guy doesn't come by much anymore, but could we take another look at this sentence?
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 02:48am
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If your's is the same play that I recall, I thought he may have lifted his pivot before he released the ball for his dribble.
That may be true. That was way up top near the three point line after he first received the pass. He slid his right foot a bit and then may have picked it up slightly before the dribble was released. It was close and is not a call that is made with that kind of precision the vast majority of the time.
So passing on that call is no big deal. Of course, that part of the play is not what all the announcers are talking about.

The part AFTER he lost the ball momentarily and then regained it is what is being deemed a travel. They are wrong.
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That may be true. That was way up top near the three point line after he first received the pass. He slid his right foot a bit and then may have picked it up slightly before the dribble was released. It was close and is not a call that is made with that kind of precision the vast majority of the time.
So passing on that call is no big deal. Of course, that part of the play is not what all the announcers are talking about.

The part AFTER he lost the ball momentarily and then regained it is what is being deemed a travel. They are wrong.
That's what I saw,only on the replay I might add. No way would that ever be called in that situation. It was really miniscule.
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The part AFTER he lost the ball momentarily and then regained it is what is being deemed a travel. They are wrong.
Yes, I think that's what they are b1tching about.

When I saw the first replay from the L my immediate thought was he obviously travelled. Then they showed it from the other side and I saw he fumbled the ball as he shifted his feet. Great no call IMO. I didn't see anything else that was close to a travel in that sequence.

And then 10 minutes later the announcers concocted this 'contraversy' and we were off.

Stupid monkeys.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 09:46pm
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The final shot in the Hoya game. I am so tired of these announcers who don't know the rule. They kep talking about how his left foot was the pivot foot and that as soon as he lifted it, he traveled. Why won't these networks just hire an official that knows the rules? Drives me crazy. It was mainly Seth Davis.
Big2Cat,

Completely agree. As soon as they started saying that, I started yelling, cursing, and throwing soft objects at my TV.
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