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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:12am
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How can you say that? Why only .2 seconds? Because the announcers said so? Why not .7 or .5?

The officials reviewed the amount of time they felt should have run off the clock. The clock never started. I would expect a second to come off anyway.

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Everyone agrees that the officials accurately accounted for the time between when the ball was touched IB v when it was touched OB.

The question is...what happens when you have an early whistle on an OB play? As Jurassic points out, by rule this would be an IW, as such we would go to POI and AP(NFHS). Obviously, no one would agree that we should do that.

So the question is still...do we get it right or follow the rule?
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:20am
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Everyone agrees that the officials accurately accounted for the time between when the ball was touched IB v when it was touched OB.

The question is...what happens when you have an early whistle on an OB play? As Jurassic points out, by rule this would be an IW, as such we would go to POI and AP(NFHS). Obviously, no one would agree that we should do that.

So the question is still...do we get it right or follow the rule?
Once again this is why some people will always make a mountain out of a molehill. Who says the whistle was blown early?

From my point of view people here are trying to make an issue out of something because they fell they could do better than the officials actually working the game.

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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:23am
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Once again this is why some people will always make a mountain out of a molehill. Who says the whistle was blown early?

From my point of view people here are trying to make an issue out of something because they fell they could do better than the officials actually working the game.

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I don't think anybody has given any reason to think we could do a better job. I know I certainly couldn't, but I do think the rules suggest a different course of action.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:27am
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Once again this is why some people will always make a mountain out of a molehill. Who says the whistle was blown early?

From my point of view people here are trying to make an issue out of something because they fell they could do better than the officials actually working the game.

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First of all, the whistle was blown early, that is not in dispute.

Secondly, I in no way feel I can do better than a D1 in the Sweet 16, I just want to know what to do in a HS V game if we have an early whistle on an OB play close to the buzzer?
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:44am
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First of all, the whistle was blown early, that is not in dispute.

Secondly, I in no way feel I can do better than a D1 in the Sweet 16, I just want to know what to do in a HS V game if we have an early whistle on an OB play close to the buzzer?
I am disputing it. I am disputing it because other than a few people saying it here I still have not seen how only .2 seconds would have come off the clock. Which tells me that if Bill Rafferty and his partner said .7, then people would say that only .7 would have come off the clock?

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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:49am
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I am disputing it. I am disputing it because other than a few people saying it here I still have not seen how only .2 seconds would have come off the clock. Which tells me that if Bill Rafferty and his partner said .7, then people would say that only .7 would have come off the clock?

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Listen, last night, after everything was said and done, the officials got it correct from the standpoint that they took the correct amount of time off of the clock from the point the ball was touched IB until it was touched OB.

My question still remains, in a HS game, if the whistle is blown early on an OB play prior to the buzzer, then the ball lands OB after the buzzer, what do we do?
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:49am
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First of all, the whistle was blown early, that is not in dispute.

Secondly, I in no way feel I can do better than a D1 in the Sweet 16, I just want to know what to do in a HS V game if we have an early whistle on an OB play close to the buzzer?
Are you sure the whistle was blown early??? The play is on youtube, and I think the whistle was ok.

My question would be after the made basket under 59.9 the clock stops, when does it start again, after the touch or after the ball touches inbounds? I know when we would normally chop the clock in, is it the same after a made basket?
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 11:05am
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Are you sure the whistle was blown early??? The play is on youtube, and I think the whistle was ok.

My question would be after the made basket under 59.9 the clock stops, when does it start again, after the touch or after the ball touches inbounds? I know when we would normally chop the clock in, is it the same after a made basket?
Yes, it's the same...
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:28am
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Once again this is why some people will always make a mountain out of a molehill. Who says the whistle was blown early?

From my point of view people here are trying to make an issue out of something because they fell they could do better than the officials actually working the game.
Amen.

I thought the guys on the game handled it properly and professionally.

But.....it's that time of the year, isn't it?)
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 10:31am
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Amen.

I thought the guys on the game handled it properly and professionally.

But.....it's that time of the year, isn't it?)
There is, or was, some guidance given to the officials on what to do if an airborne player heading out of bounds requested a TO and the official blew the whistle.

I'd use the same type of precedent here.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2007, 11:49am
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There is, or was, some guidance given to the officials on what to do if an airborne player heading out of bounds requested a TO and the official blew the whistle.

I'd use the same type of precedent here.
hmmm...move the throw-in team up to the spot of the ball at the whistle, take off whatever time should have elapsed from touch to whistle & resume the game?

I don't agree the guidance you reference applies to this case.

btw, i still don't agree there was a whistle

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