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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I see the problem. You don't. If the thrower was still holding the ball OOB when the clock started, and the whistle then went off before the ball even left the thrower's hands, you'd still give it to the other team if they had the arrow under your goofy interpretation.

Completely freaking ridiculous!

JR:

By rule, yes. Am I going to by rule? No. Why? Easy, about five to seven years ago (maybe more), the NFHS change way how the game was to be restarted after a correctable error with regard to unawarded free throws. Before this rule change, i.e., if A1 was to receive free throws for a common foul by B1 and instead Team A was awarded a throw-in and the correctable error was discovered during the allowabe time limit, the free three would be awarded as a Point-of-Interuption. That meant if the correctable error was discovered while the ball was live, say, just after Team A had inbounded the ball, A1 would be awarded his free throws and then Team A would get the ball for a throw-in. That also meant if the correctable error was discovered while a player for Team A was in possession of the ball for the throw-in that had been awarded for B1's common foul inplace of the unawarded free throw for B1's foul, Team A should get the ball again for a throw-in after A1 had shot his free throws. BUT, I do not know of any official, including me that would handle a correctable error that was discovered while a player for Team A was in possession of the ball for the throw-in.

Once again, the key here is game awareness by the officials.

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

The whistle should not have been blown until possession/team control had been established,(this would not matter in NCAA as there is team control on the throw in), once team control is established, the whistle is blown, the timers mistake is rectified by resetting the clock or taking time off and the ball is put inbounds nearest the spot where the whistle blew. Because there is Team control the AP is out of the question.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying in this paragraph. It seemed to me that you were making the case that not only would the ball be put back in play at the POI (nearest OOB spot to the location of the ball) in the situation in which the inbounds player has already touched the ball when the whistle is blown, but because the NCAA has team control during a throw-in that the same location would apply even if the whistle was sounded PRIOR to the inbounds player touching the ball.

That question has been asked and the NCAA has responded that it is not the same and clarified that the original throw-in spot is the proper location from which to continue the game. Therefore, I was trying to tell you that if the inbounds player hasn't yet touched the ball, the throw-in location for the POI returns to the original throw-in spot, which could be back on the end line.

Please notice that this is different from the two examples that you just cited. In both of those examples the inbounds player has already touched the ball. I agree with you that the ball location is the proper POI in those cases.

I'll do some research and see if I can find the clarification for the case in which the inbounds player has NOT yet touched the ball.

It seems that we misunderstood what each other was saying.