Oden Intentional Foul

[Big2Cat]

That was a classic case of an intentional foul, imo, at the end of regulation. And it will cost Xavier the game it looks like.

[johnnyrao]

I would agree with you. I would love to have heard the explanation they gave to Coach Miller on that one.

[DC_Ref12]

You just don't call that.

Why? I'll never know.

[regs12]

They only showed the replay once on TV but live that looked to be intentional...2 hand push to the floor and the lead had good look at it. Oden is a big guy but was the official thinking damage control rather than penalizing the obvious? I would like to see it again and would also like to see what everyone else is thinking. Good Post!

[johnnyrao]

I agree that it would be nice to see it again but the actual play and the replay seemed to indicate no attempt to play the ball, just a straight push. These calls never decide games since Xavier had every chance to win in OT but I think they would have had a great chance to win it in regulation had they called this.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by regs12

They only showed the replay once on TV but live that looked to be intentional...2 hand push to the floor and the lead had good look at it. Oden is a big guy but was the official thinking damage control rather than penalizing the obvious? I would like to see it again and would also like to see what everyone else is thinking. Good Post!

The actually did show a replay, and it looked worse then the live play. The guy actually got pushed off his feet, meaning he flew a$$ first out of bounds.

[grunewar]

and who woulda thought that Oden fouling out would be one of the determining factors, in a positive way, for osu?

[Texas Aggie]

He really didn't get pushed, but got blocked (as in football block). No brainer intentional, in my view. I'll concede that if might not have looked as bad on the floor as it did from the TV angle, but it was bad enough. There was clearly no play on the ball.

However, if X makes their last free throw, they will probably win.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by johnnyrao

I would agree with you. I would love to have heard the explanation they gave to Coach Miller on that one.

Coach he only got pushed into the cameramen. If he would've gotten pushed into the first row, then I would've called it...

I agree, I would've called the intentional and I'm sure no assignor or supervisor would've given me grief about it.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

That was a classic case of an intentional foul, imo, at the end of regulation. And it will cost Xavier the game it looks like.

No way did it cost them the game. They had a 9 point lead late in the game and let it slip away. THAT is what cost them the game.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

No way did it cost them the game. They had a 9 point lead late in the game and let it slip away. THAT is what cost them the game.

Well it sure as h-e-double toothpicks didn't help matters. It was a contributing factor.

[26 Year Gap]

A classic 'blame the ref' comment. They did not take care of bidness. They had 'em on the mat and let 'em back up.

[mick]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

They [the players] did not take care of bidness. They had 'em on the mat and let 'em back up.

Using that mindset seems quite commonplace.
I have not noticed (m)any last minute ballsy calls that were not assisted by the monitor.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

No way did it cost them the game. They had a 9 point lead late in the game and let it slip away. THAT is what cost them the game.

Courage is something that very few officials have. The best officials have it, and I'm not talking about tournament officials, because based on my observations of situations this weekend, I didn't see any of it on display. What I did see was an inordinate amount of calls outside officials' primaries. Basically what these guys are saying is that they're better than the mechanics and floor coverages. Contrast that with the women's tournament and compare how many calls are outside their primaries. The ratio has to be at least 10 to 1. I know for myself, I'm just not good enough to get plays right all over the floor. I guess someday I can be as good as Jim Burr and be successful at it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by socalreff

Courage is something that very few officials have. The best officials have it, and I'm not talking about tournament officials, because based on my observations of situations this weekend, I didn't see any of it on display. What I did see was an inordinate amount of calls outside officials' primaries. Basically what these guys are saying is that they're better than the mechanics and floor coverages. Contrast that with the women's tournament and compare how many calls are outside their primaries. The ratio has to be at least 10 to 1. I know for myself, I'm just not good enough to get plays right all over the floor. I guess someday I can be as good as Jim Burr and be successful at it.

So, according to you, the NCAA officials working in the tournament not only are terrible, they also lack balls too.

Would you mind telling everybody exactly what your qualifications are to completely denigrate the accomplishments of what the NCAA has determined to be the best officials available? Are you currently working at the D1 level? Have you ever worked at the D1 level? Are you currently evaluating for a D1 conference?

Or, as is probably more likely, maybe you're just another back-stabbing, integrity-free clown that's full of jealousy because you're not good enough to be working at that level.

When someone like you dumps on every single official working in the NCAA tournament, it kinda makes you wonder what we're dealing with. We expect that crap from fanboys. We don't expect it from people who actually profess to be an official. If you really are an official, you've got one helluva lot to learn about integrity imo.