My Old High School

[jmaellis]

Anybody willing to comment as to whether or not you would call or pass on the lane violation committed on the second free throw by the player in the white jersey occupying the space directly to the left of the free throw shooter (2:52). Since the basket was made I now it doesn't matter, but I didn't see either official give the delayed lane violation signal, so I'm wondering if the encroachment into the lane was not significant enough to warrant a call.

[The Canuck]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The home timer pulled one over on the refs.

Jeffrey Maier, move over and eat your heart out. I hope that scorer's conscience eats at him/her forever.

But more importantly, if the officials don't have definitive knowledge, why was any time put back on the clock to begin with? Why are they taking the scorer's word?

[ChrisSportsFan]

Wow, those are 2 huge mistakes...adding time without positive knowledge and the ball hitting the support.

Whatever they told the V Coach, he seemed to take it pretty well unless that part of the video was edited.

I would say they've got som splainin to do to someone.

Not being there, we have no idea how the rest of the game went but unfortunatly, they will always be remembered for those last 8 seconds (the 6 that ran off and the 2 they added).

[JRutledge]

Is it just me or do we really know why the officials changed the time? I did not see anything on the tape other than the suggestion by the person that created the video that the timer was responsible for the change of the clock. I think that is an assumption made rather than a proven issue. The officials did talk for some time about the issue and that tells me there must have been something up with the clock and that is the reason time was put on the clock. Now whether they put the right amount of time up is another issue. I just do not see anything on the tape that suggests the timer was responsible for the addition of time. There was no audio on the conversation between the officials or the table personnel.

Peace

[Junker]

They are 2 major mistakes. I'm glad it wasn't my game. I agree that 3 person mechanics make situations like this much easier. I wonder if the state will make a statement on this game?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

New Jersey State Playoffs. I know it is long at 4 minutes, but go ahead to the last minute and see the shot. My mom sent me the article as it is a big deal there--the title in the paper was Ripped Off!

In case you don't watch the video, here is what happened (I won't discuss the added 2 seconds coming from the home team's scorekeeper that the refs put back on the clock): Highlands is up 60-58 as Parsippany Hills brings the ball up. A kid heaves a desperation shot....hits rim, bounces up, hits the basketball mount behind the backboard, back down onto the rim and then into the basket. The trail official counts it and then runs into the lockerroom.

Enjoy. Looking forward to comments.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmdlL_vgeL4

The bottom line here:
1. Time should not have been added back on the clock.
2. The basket should not have counted. Totally, a bad sequence of events.

This is for those newer official who may be starting. The time you hear or blow your whistle. You should always look at the clock.

[Nevadaref]

I just watched it again and noticed something pretty bad. At 3:14 of the clip the Lead official picks a position from right in the middle of the lane to observe the final play. He walks over as if he is going to come strong side and then just stops, right smack in the middle. That itself isn't so terrible, but then he doesn't bother to look at the players, rather he looks straight up at the ball bouncing around up there!!! If he is going to do that, then he could at least help his partner make the right call. Just sad.

Who trained that guy?

[wizard]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

A kid heaves a desperation shot....hits rim, bounces up, hits the basketball mount behind the backboard, back down onto the rim and then into the basket. The trail official counts it and then runs into the lockerroom.

The trail is rightly to the right but behind the shooter. He looking directly at the shot from the time it hits the rim and all the way through the rim. He pretty emphatic in his scoring of the goal, like he saw it all the way. Ugh!

I agree with The Canuck, the home timer should be ashamed.

[26 Year Gap]

Why is the name "Alexander Belov" popping into my head?

[BillyMac]

My worst call of the year: Girls varsity. A few seconds to go in the first quarter. I'm the trail, responsible for the shot and the clock. A-1 attempts a three-pointer from my primary with no defender near her. Still no horn. I watch the flight of the ball. It clangs off the rim and bounces high above the rim. Still no horn. In a boys game, I would be watching for basket interference, but since it was a girls game, I decided to glance at the clock in case of a rebounding foul. Tenths of a second left. I turn back to the ball and basket to see the ball enter the basket at the buzzer. I count the three-pointer to end the quarter.

A few Team B players politely tell me the ball hit a supporting wire. I can also tell from the reaction of the crowd that it probably hit the supporting wire. I go to my partner who was the lead, to see if he can help me. Of course he can't, which I already knew, because his responsibility is to keep his eyes down, looking for rebounding fouls. But I ask him anyway, to show the Team B head coach, who is questioning my call, that I'm trying to get as much information as possible. My partner says that he didn't see it hit the supporting wire. I tell the Team B head coach that I can't change a call without definite knowledge, and I say "I'm sorry if I missed it". He says, "Sorry doesn't take away the three points" and appears very upset with me.

In the locker room at halftime, the junior varsity officials, who had stayed to watch the varsity game, say that the ball did hit the supporting wire. Going onto the court after halftime, the Team B head coach apologizes for losing his temper, which never even approached the need for a technical foul. I accept his apology, and explain to him that I missed the ball touching the supporting wire because I had glanced at the clock to check the time. Before the second half started, all the members of the table crew, from both teams told me that the ball had hit the supporting wire.

My question: Since the scorers and the timer at the table are considered part of our officiating crew, could I have gone to them for help on this call at the end of the first quarter to correct the call ?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

My question: Since the scorers and the timer at the table are considered part of our officiating crew, could I have gone to them for help on this call at the end of the first quarter to correct the call ?

My belief is that, yes, you could have used the help of your table crew, but one has to be careful when doing this that the table crew is trustworthy.

Next time you would probably be better served to trust your table to handle the clock and you continue to observe the shot.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My belief is that, yes, you could have used the help of your table crew, but one has to be careful when doing this that the table crew is trustworthy.

Next time you would probably be better served to trust your table to handle the clock and you continue to observe the shot.

2 questions:

1. Based on what can the table help make *this* call?

2. First you advise we need to be careful about the honesty of the table crew then you advise we need to trust them. How can this be?

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My belief is that, yes, you could have used the help of your table crew, but one has to be careful when doing this that the table crew is trustworthy.

Next time you would probably be better served to trust your table to handle the clock and you continue to observe the shot.

Are you saying "YES" he could've asked the table crew if there was a "VIOLATION" on the floor? Please tell me that's not what you're saying yes to.