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Old Sun Mar 04, 2007, 02:38am
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Fastest T in The West

Well, at least my fastest T in a game, ever.

Men's wreck league. It's tournament time and I'm working a loser's bracket game, so...the loser is done for the year.

Opening jump goes to red. White gets a steal, and throws it downcourt to their man streaking for the basket. The only other person in that end of the floor is a trailer from red. Streaker Man decides to get cute and rather than just going for the layup, he's going to get Trailer Dude in the air and draw a foul. Which he does, Trailer Dude goes airborne and comes down on Streaker Man. But in the process Streaker Man travels. My parnter calls it.

Streaker Man apparently doesn't care for my partner's call and proceeds to say to me, quite loudly and clearly, "That call was complete bull crap!" Easy T. Seemingly not the reaction he wanted, so he tries my partner to see if he gets a better response.

Did I mention that this league frowns quite seriously on player's earning Ts? First one of the season you're done for the rest of the game. Second one, you're done for that one and the next. Third, you're done for the year.

So, about 10 seconds into a must-win game, Streaker Man gets himself tossed.

Oh, did I mention that Streaker Man works for the city's rec department?
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Old Sun Mar 04, 2007, 02:59am
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Nice T, I wish my refs would come down that hard in the men's league I run.
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Old Sun Mar 04, 2007, 03:36am
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Had one in an 8th grade AAU game today. Same partner I had last week with my two Ts in two games. 2nd game today, and about half way through the third quarter I call their best post player for a travel on an otherwise decent looking move. Both coaches stand up and yell "that's not a travel."
I didn't bother with a stop sign or a warning light or a yield sign or anything. I ring up the assistant with the accompanying indirect on the head coach. Partner seat belts the coach, and all is well the rest of the game.

After the game, both coaches come up and chat, very cordially. Assistant coach apologizes saying he didn't realize he couldn't stand. I smile and nod and the head coach adds, "If I'd known I was going to have to sit, he'd have had a seat belt." Intense coaches, but they just needed a bit of guidance.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 03:51pm
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Had one in an 8th grade AAU game today. Same partner I had last week with my two Ts in two games. 2nd game today, and about half way through the third quarter I call their best post player for a travel on an otherwise decent looking move. Both coaches stand up and yell "that's not a travel." I didn't bother with a stop sign or a warning light or a yield sign or anything. I ring up the assistant with the accompanying indirect on the head coach. Partner seat belts the coach, and all is well the rest of the game.
Wow, that was a quick technical! What the hell you so upset about? You even admitted it was a decent move. Now you go and ruin it with a technical! That's emotion coming from the coaches and they are allowed to stand up for an exciting play. That's not trying to show you up. Just say no, it's a travel, put the ball in play. This is a perfect time to just put the hand up, stop sign, that's enough coaches! They run thru the stop sign, or rag on about it, then you whack em!
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 03:57pm
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I used to, half jokingly, say that game fees for AAU tournaments only paid for my whistle, not for my game management skills.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 06:44pm
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I used to, half jokingly, say that game fees for AAU tournaments only paid for my whistle, not for my game management skills.

Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 04:18pm
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Wow, that was a quick technical! What the hell you so upset about? You even admitted it was a decent move. Now you go and ruin it with a technical! That's emotion coming from the coaches and they are allowed to stand up for an exciting play. That's not trying to show you up. Just say no, it's a travel, put the ball in play. This is a perfect time to just put the hand up, stop sign, that's enough coaches! They run thru the stop sign, or rag on about it, then you whack em!
I wasn't upset. Do I need to be upset to call a technical? If I wait until I'm upset before calling the T, I've let them get under my skin. No thanks.
Yes, they can stand to cheer their team. They cannot stand to jeer the officials.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 06:59pm
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I wasn't upset. Do I need to be upset to call a technical? If I wait until I'm upset before calling the T, I've let them get under my skin. No thanks.
Yes, they can stand to cheer their team. They cannot stand to jeer the officials.
I'm sorry Snags, you overreacted! They got under your skin. You got to get out more man, put the rulebook down, take a deep breath, relax, now repeat after me. "it ain't all about me!...."
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 07:41am
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Wow, that was a quick technical! What the hell you so upset about? You even admitted it was a decent move. Now you go and ruin it with a technical! That's emotion coming from the coaches and they are allowed to stand up for an exciting play. That's not trying to show you up. Just say no, it's a travel, put the ball in play. This is a perfect time to just put the hand up, stop sign, that's enough coaches! They run thru the stop sign, or rag on about it, then you whack em!
You really have no clue.

They're allowed to stand for an exciting play.

They aren't allowed to stand and yell at the official about a call they don't like.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 08:28am
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You really have no clue.

They're allowed to stand for an exciting play.

They aren't allowed to stand and yell at the official about a call they don't like.
Yea, but how do you know that? Snaqs said it was a decent move, which that in itself could have got the coaches up. Then he calls a traveling, and the coaches are already standing. They say "What!" " That's not a travel!" while standing. That's emotion. That's 1 + 1 = 2. That's elementary Holmes, in officiating terms. You should be able to anticipate that and if you don't, I question your ability in this area (conduct T's) as an official. And it's not that as much as your reaction to their reaction. We got the coaches being emotional, now with the quick T, we got the official being emotional. Not a lot of clear thought is being used here by either parties.

It's not good for the official to get emotional. Now repeat after me. It ain't all about me! It ain't all about me!
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 02:27pm
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First one of the season you're done for the rest of the game. Second one, you're done for that one and the next. Third, you're done for the year.
I was asked to coordinate (and work) one year for a church league. I said I would do it provided there were rules such as this for the league. They balked. The next year, they came begging me to do it and said I could write any sportsmanship rule I wanted. So, what we did was this: first T: out a FULL half (i.e. rest of that game if first half; rest of game and first half of next if second); second T: out a FULL game plus rest of that one; third, done for year.

I never had any T's in my games and don't think we had any all year long.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2007, 03:05pm
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Men's wreck league. It's tournament time and I'm working a loser's bracket game
Aren't they ALL losers in rec league play?
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