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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 07:41am
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Wow, that was a quick technical! What the hell you so upset about? You even admitted it was a decent move. Now you go and ruin it with a technical! That's emotion coming from the coaches and they are allowed to stand up for an exciting play. That's not trying to show you up. Just say no, it's a travel, put the ball in play. This is a perfect time to just put the hand up, stop sign, that's enough coaches! They run thru the stop sign, or rag on about it, then you whack em!
You really have no clue.

They're allowed to stand for an exciting play.

They aren't allowed to stand and yell at the official about a call they don't like.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 08:28am
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You really have no clue.

They're allowed to stand for an exciting play.

They aren't allowed to stand and yell at the official about a call they don't like.
Yea, but how do you know that? Snaqs said it was a decent move, which that in itself could have got the coaches up. Then he calls a traveling, and the coaches are already standing. They say "What!" " That's not a travel!" while standing. That's emotion. That's 1 + 1 = 2. That's elementary Holmes, in officiating terms. You should be able to anticipate that and if you don't, I question your ability in this area (conduct T's) as an official. And it's not that as much as your reaction to their reaction. We got the coaches being emotional, now with the quick T, we got the official being emotional. Not a lot of clear thought is being used here by either parties.

It's not good for the official to get emotional. Now repeat after me. It ain't all about me! It ain't all about me!
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 10:43am
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Yea, but how do you know that? Snaqs said it was a decent move, which that in itself could have got the coaches up. Then he calls a traveling, and the coaches are already standing. They say "What!" " That's not a travel!" while standing. That's emotion. That's 1 + 1 = 2. That's elementary Holmes, in officiating terms. You should be able to anticipate that and if you don't, I question your ability in this area (conduct T's) as an official. And it's not that as much as your reaction to their reaction. We got the coaches being emotional, now with the quick T, we got the official being emotional. Not a lot of clear thought is being used here by either parties.

It's not good for the official to get emotional. Now repeat after me. It ain't all about me! It ain't all about me!
Yup, it was a decent move, all except for that traveling part. No, it wasn't such an oustanding move it had the two coaches up. It was "decent." No more. They didn't get up until I called the travel; at which point they're both screaming at me.

Again, I didn't get all emotional by calling the T. It was calm, the head coach compained briefly and asked what the T was for. I explained it and proceeded to administer the free throws while my partner explained to him the benefits of coaching from his chair.

I'm not sure why you are so hung up on thinking I was emotional just because I called a conduct T.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 12:04pm
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I'm not sure why you are so hung up on thinking I was emotional just because I called a conduct T.
He's hung up on it because he's a chicken-sh!t who won't call a T on a coach even if the coach is dropping f-bombs on him...he'll use his superior Jedi-like game management skills to get that coach clamed right down...and if that doesn't work THEN he will call the big dramatic T and yell "THAT'S ON YOU, COACH!!"...unlike the rest of us who just deal with things as they come up and move on - just like you did Snaq...
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 03:22pm
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2007, 02:27pm
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First one of the season you're done for the rest of the game. Second one, you're done for that one and the next. Third, you're done for the year.
I was asked to coordinate (and work) one year for a church league. I said I would do it provided there were rules such as this for the league. They balked. The next year, they came begging me to do it and said I could write any sportsmanship rule I wanted. So, what we did was this: first T: out a FULL half (i.e. rest of that game if first half; rest of game and first half of next if second); second T: out a FULL game plus rest of that one; third, done for year.

I never had any T's in my games and don't think we had any all year long.
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