Last second shot with light (NFHS)

[BillyMac]

NFHS Rule 5-4-2 "The NFHS does not recognize protests".

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS Rule 5-4-2 "The NFHS does not recognize protests".

NFHS Rulebook, page 1, first paragraph, third sentence:

"Member Associations of the NFHS independently make decisions regarding compliance with or modification of these playing rules for the student-athletes in their respective states."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GarthB

NFHS Rulebook, page 1, first paragraph, third sentence:

"Member Associations of the NFHS independently make decisions regarding compliance with or modification of these playing rules for the student-athletes in their respective states."

That doesn't mean that the FED approves those modifications though. From the NFHS rulebook, page 10, third paragraph--"It is the policy of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee that there be no deviation from the rules unless experimental approval has been granted by the NFHS liaison to the rules committee."

Iow, if a state wants to use a shot clock for instance, they certainly can do so. But by doing so, they are usually leaving themselves open to possible FED sanctions, which are usually something along the line of not allowing that state to have any representation or input on or to the NFHS rules committee.

Does the baseball rulebook carry the same type of language under "the Intent and Purpose of the Rules" too, Garth?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That doesn't mean that the FED approves those modifications though.

That doesn't stop states from modifying.

From the NFHS rulebook, page 10, third paragraph--"It is the policy of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee that there be no deviation from the rules unless experimental approval has been granted by the NFHS liaison to the rules committee."

Iow, if a state wants to use a shot clock for instance, they certainly can do so. But by doing so, they are usually leaving themselves open to possible FED sanctions, which are usually something along the line of not allowing that state to have any representation or input on or to the NFHS rules committee.

Yep. That's what Washington lives with for its shot clock. Apparently the WIAA had decided that its a small price to pay.

Does the baseball rulebook carry the same type of language under "the Intent and Purpose of the Rules" too, Garth?

Yep.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That doesn't stop states from modifying.



Yep. That's what Washington lives with for its shot clock. Apparently the WIAA had decided that its a small price to pay.



Yep.

Hey...GarthB...I see you are from Spokane, WA.
I just got a call telling me that I am at Spokane tomorrow night...Pasco vs. Shadle Park. (300 miles round trip...44 cents a mile)
Do you happen to know who the officials are for that game?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Hey...GarthB...I see you are from Spokane, WA.
I just got a call telling me that I am at Spokane tomorrow night...Pasco vs. Shadle Park. (300 miles round trip...44 cents a mile)
Do you happen to know who the officials are for that game?

I'm looking into it. I'll get back to you.

[steve33]

The only way this SHOULD be overturned is if it can be proved the player released the ball before the horn, the light shouldn't have anything to do with anything.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Hey...GarthB...I see you are from Spokane, WA.
I just got a call telling me that I am at Spokane tomorrow night...Pasco vs. Shadle Park. (300 miles round trip...44 cents a mile)
Do you happen to know who the officials are for that game?

Got it. PM or email me: [email protected]

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS Rule 5-4-2 "The NFHS does not recognize protests".

The NFHS may not but that doesn't stop a state association from doing so if they wish.

[sj]

Last Friday the AD came in and told us that they had a clock where the numbers go to 00:00 and then a full one second later the horn blows. The home coach knew it of course and we made sure the visitors were told. I never did get the story straight whether or not if it was broke or if that was the way it was made. This was about the largest school population wise in the state so you would think they could afford to get it changed. We just handled it so that the horn ends the period but we didn't need to worry about it though as we had no last second excitement. My partner had heard a story that somebody somewhere with a similar clock handle it by having one official be responsible for blowing a whistle at 00:00 and going by that rather than waiting for the horn. Anybody ever heard of that before?

[BillyMac]

From BillyMac: NFHS Rule 5-4-2 "The NFHS does not recognize protests".

I know about state associations. The only reason that I went to the rule book is to emphasis that the NFHS will not get involved with protests and that coaches, fans, etc. should not look to the NFHS Rule Book for rules regarding protests.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by sj

Last Friday the AD came in and told us that they had a clock where the numbers go to 00:00 and then a full one second later the horn blows.

Isn't that true of most clocks that don't show tenths of seconds?

[sj]

This one does. I guess I should have typed 00:00.0