Call it or not?

[BktBallRef]

If it's a foul in the 1st quarter, it's a foul in the 4th.

[Mark Padgett]

If it's not a foul in the first quarter, it's not a foul in the fourth. Ask yourself this - if you call a personal foul without any contact, what mechanic would you use? I guess you could use the illegal use of hands mechanic but just miss your arm when you do it.

[Texas Aggie]

No contact, no foul, but you might use a little more discretion in what contact it takes to draw a whistle if you think it might escalate if you don't call.

In terms of same 1st quarter/4th quarter, I think there's a difference between a team trying to foul to stop the clock and just being overly aggressive. However, I can see a difference of opinion on this issue and am interested in hearing other thoughts.

[Camron Rust]

No contact, no foul.

The offense deserves the advantage of running out the clock if they can keep the ball away from the defense. If B takes it too far when they finally do make contact, make the call accordingly.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The offense deserves the advantage of running out the clock if they can keep the ball away from the defense.

Absolutely. And if offense is successful and defense fouls very roughly out of frustration, it's gonna be an intentional. And if the coach complains that I "gotta call the little ones" I say, "They've gotta commit the little ones."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

And if the coach complains that I "gotta call the little ones" I say, "They've gotta commit the little ones."

Somebody said that about Chuck once too.

I think it was me.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Somebody said that about Chuck once too.

I think it was me.

Hey, I think his disappearance story was just a front. He really has been committed!!