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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:25am
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I completely disagree. I made the comment so he would understand that the head coach would be the person we were listening to and it accomplished exactly what I wanted it to. His coaches did not chirp the rest of the game. The assistant coach should not be talking to us in the first place, so he was already on thin ice to begin with. Also I do not officiate in fear of inappropriate comments when they approach me.

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I was referring to possible comments from the head coach. I couldn't care less about assistants. I would probably would have just ignored the assistant.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:38am
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I was referring to possible comments from the head coach. I couldn't care less about assistants. I would probably would have just ignored the assistant.
Well the assistant was literally standing right in front of me and turned to make a comment directly to me. I do not think it would have been right to not acknowledge him. And I wanted to get a point across and I accomplished that point perfectly.

About the other comments this fits my personality. I listen to what coaches have to say and I do not want them yelling at my partners or me across the court. If they are cordial and calm I will listen to them. In many cases I use humor when appropriate or I will be stern when appropriate. I will even ignore when appropriate if a coach is not showing respect or has lost credibility with me or the crew based on previous actions during that particular game. I make no apologies for what was said or the circumstances. And I never worry about what their response is going to be. The official is holding all the cards. If a coach is dumb enough to make an inappropriate comment, then that is something they have to do at their own risk.

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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:49am
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Well the assistant was literally standing right in front of me and turned to make a comment directly to me. I do not think it would have been right to not acknowledge him. And I wanted to get a point across and I accomplished that point perfectly.

About the other comments this fits my personality. I listen to what coaches have to say and I do not want them yelling at my partners or me across the court. If they are cordial and calm I will listen to them. In many cases I use humor when appropriate or I will be stern when appropriate. I will even ignore when appropriate if a coach is not showing respect or has lost credibility with me or the crew based on previous actions during that particular game. I make no apologies for what was said or the circumstances. And I never worry about what their response is going to be. The official is holding all the cards. If a coach is dumb enough to make an inappropriate comment, then that is something they have to do at their own risk.

Peace
The assistant coach thing is a moot point. I'm strictly talking about the verbiage. What if instead of this response from the HC, "I do remember that, this is why you are holding it against me from what happen two summers ago." his response would have been "I do remember that, you cheated my squad out of a victory. You had it in for me."

Would that be a T'able response in your opinion.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:16pm
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The assistant coach thing is a moot point. I'm strictly talking about the verbiage. What if instead of this response from the HC, "I do remember that, this is why you are holding it against me from what happen two summers ago." his response would have been "I do remember that, you cheated my squad out of a victory. You had it in for me."

Would that be a T'able response in your opinion.
First of all he did not say that. This is a moot point if you ask me. I consider that a moot point because it had nothing to do with this game. Also understand this I do feel officials have the right to respond to questions and comments from coaches. If he said that, then that is his problem. I cannot worry about what a coach thinks about something so far in the past and insignificant to me that he is worried about it. If I gave a T for everything that was implied, I would have two Ts every game at the very least.

As I have stated I do not know of anything that took place 2 summers ago anyway. Summer games are practice from my point of view and I do remember seeing certain teams, but I could not tell you anything about many summer games.

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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:20pm
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As I have stated I do not know of anything that took place 2 summers ago anyway.
Amazing, ain't it? Officials just forgive and forget. Well, forget anyway. Some coaches, not all, have memories like an elephant.
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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:22pm
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Amazing, ain't it? Officials just forgive and forget. Well, forget anyway. Some coaches, not all, have memories like an elephant.
That is really the point of the story from my point of view.

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Old Thu Feb 15, 2007, 11:55am
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Were you at GBS last night? I am trying to think who in the area has a first year coach, and I don't do the Western Sun. Just wondering....
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