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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 05:46pm
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Dunk or Illegal Dribble

A1 comes dribbling down the court, wide open on a fast break. A1 throws the ball off the backboard (obviously not an attempt at a shot), catches it in the air, and dunks the ball.

Partner (a veteran official) makes no call. After the game, I ask him about the play, and he says it's perfectly legal. I ask about the possibility of an illegal dribble call, and he says since it's at their basket, it's okay.

Is this correct, and if so, NFHS rules citations or case plays would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 06:14pm
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Did he throw it off the backboard with 1 hand or 2?
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 06:17pm
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He used 2 hands.

If there's a difference between 1 hand or 2 hands, I'd appreciate it if you could explain the difference.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 06:25pm
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I think he was being sarcastic -- have you NEVER seen this done before?

if the answer is NO -- then please proceed to hang up your whistle --

if the answer is YES -- then think real hard if you can remember EVER seeing an official come in with a whistle on this and calling an ILLEGAL dribble.

You're partner's reasoning is incorrect however his nocall is correct.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 06:34pm
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You're partner's reasoning is incorrect however his nocall is correct.
Why is his partner's reasoning incorrect?
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 06:40pm
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i dont see whether its their basket or not should matter. its an illegal dribble if the ball comes to rest in their palm so what does the basket matter?
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 07:21pm
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I think he was being sarcastic -- have you NEVER seen this done before?

if the answer is NO -- then please proceed to hang up your whistle --

if the answer is YES -- then think real hard if you can remember EVER seeing an official come in with a whistle on this and calling an ILLEGAL dribble.

You're partner's reasoning is incorrect however his nocall is correct.
I have seen this done before, but have never thought about it from an officiating standpoint. While I appreciate your help, the smart comments could have been withheld.

I am trying my best to become a better official, and that's why I ask questions, but it's when people give smart responses that are demeaning, as if to say "if you don't already know all the answers, hang it up," that I get slightly discouraged.

But, back to the original question, what about Rule 4-15-2? Does that not apply here? Just curious.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2007, 07:33pm
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it would be an illegal dribble if he just threw it against the backboard and recovered and landed on his feet. i do not have my rulebook here but someone will come along and let us know what that rule is.

sorry for the smart azz comment i have just been in a saracastic mood all day. but dont hang it up because of that comment think of this as thick skin training. If you can take e-punishment you will do fine when you take coach punishment.
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Old Wed Feb 14, 2007, 09:00am
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I think he was being sarcastic -- have you NEVER seen this done before?

if the answer is NO -- then please proceed to hang up your whistle --
Confusing grammar aside, I've never seen it done before, but I do know the rule and I'll keep my whistle, thanks.
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