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Old Sat Feb 10, 2007, 09:15pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Well, I'm afraid you aren't communicating very effectively. Perhaps you're pulling things out of your own ***. You certainly talk out of it quite often.

I've qualified my statements. I've stated the stop sign can be bad if not used correctly. I've also stated that it can be good when used properly. All you've ever written is that it's bad. Well guess what...you're wrong. It's not always a bad tool to use. I think the fact that we see a veteran ACC official use it in the biggest rivalry in college sports is a testament to that. But I guess you know more than he does.



I don't know that anyone has ever told me to talk to the hand or given me a stop sign. It's not something you run into in every day life.



It's a warning. I prefer to give a warning before giving a T. If you don't, then bang away!



Great. But don't ridicule everyone who doesn't do it your way! I'm not advocating that officials use it or not use it. OTOH that's exactly what you're doing.
I'm advocating officials not use anything in a robotic manner where they have to do steps 1, 2, 3 and 4. Life isn't like that. What I hope to have accomplish is provoke some thought about the fact that people communicate successfully with people everyday without giving them a stop sign. When a coach is coaching and I'm officiating, we are still people.

You speak of me not giving a warning. There you have it right there! You are basically saying you use it every time before you give a T and I think that is robotic. If you don't use it everytime, like you mentioned earlier, then you are giving a T without warning too. Is that right or wrong? If I tell a coach I've heard enough without throwing up my hand, is that not giving a warning.

If you have a dissagreement with your wife do you follow the same steps everytime? Probably not.

Basically, I chose to advocate not using a stop sign everytime by saying you shouldn't use one at all while you are (you remained mum a lot of the time when I mention it) saying it works in some situations, but not all. I say it is robotic, you just say (today) that it works some times and not all times. It seems like your stance is either quiet or generic.

You have mentioned the ACC several times and I can understand since you are in the middle of ACC country, but let me ask you a question. I've met Gary Maxwell and he seems like an OK guy/official to me (in other words the statement to follow isn't about him), but do you think that every official in a D1 conference got there because of their ability to officiate a basketball game? Surely you aren't that gullable.
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