Coach refuses to sit down

[TimTaylor]

Our instructions are not to start the game until the coaching box is marked.....

[Zoochy]

As I said. Per Rule, it is a Coaching Box. It starts 28 foot from end line and goes 14 feet towards the end line. I have yet to see an Official enforce the box as it is written. Coaches have been at Mid-Court and have been at the baseline w/o being penalized. I am not going to be the first one to 'T' a coach for being out of the box. I have seen many 'Senior' officials that do not enforce this rule, so I just follow along.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

If I see there is no box marked, I always wait for the coach's meeting at 3:00 to tell them---No Box, No Standing. Its always worth a private laugh when the coaches panic and scramble to get the box marked.

I know, I know. It's wrong. But I can't help it.

You have your meeting at 3:00??? WOW! That would be late in WV. . .

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by dkmz17

Coach has been, as coaches go, fairly silent regarding the officiating up to this point. Coach reacts to play on the court and stands calling for a foul. Referee calls a foul at about the same time, but Coach continues to stand, although is now simply talking to his team. Referee tells the Coach to sit down and Coach responds by saying "I don't have to sit down". Referee repeats his request and Coach continues to stand. Referee gives the Coach a T. Coach was at all times in the coaches box, in fact, coach never moved from in front of his chair. Was the T warranted?

It may or may not deserve the T, but it's silly for the coach to argue like that. Just sit down, shut up, and then stand again when the ref isn't in your face. This kind of facing off is pointless.

[deecee]

julie why is is silly for the coach to argue like that and not silly for the official to make such a request. This thread actually touches me in places Michael Jackson would love to have explored 20 years ago but I received a T for the exact same reason. I think sometimes we get on coaches here just because we are supposed to but the answer to the question that was posed is that from what information we are given the T was not warranted.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

The coaching box is one of the greatest tools we have as officials when a coach gets out of line. If a coach is on me for anything, he better be in the box, because that's the first place I'm going to tell him to go.

Had a sitch last weekend where I called an intentional foul on a kid cutting through the low block that threw an elbow on his opponent. I knew the coach was going to want an explanation and he was half way to the scorers table by the time I got up to report the foul. First thing I did was send the coach back to his box. He turned and started going, and I was on my way to follow him when he turned and started bellowing at me about "seeing the whole play." His tirade ended with a what I will call a 2 footed stomp, which promptly earned him a T. This was early in the 2nd quarter. To his credit, he remained seated as required for the rest of the game as his team won a close game.

Just out of curiousity, the original coaching box was 6 feet. Now, without my books handy, I believe the rule reads that the box may be "up to 14 feet" in length. Our state has remained at 6 feet. Anyone else done that, or use something in between?

[Ignats75]

Yes its standard to Have a captains meeting separate from the coaches. So for varsity we go Captains at 12:00; book at 10:00, coaches at 3:00. For JV/Frosh we go Book at 10:00 captains at 8:00 coaches at 3:00.

[Nevadaref]

NV: Book at 10, Captains at 3, Coaches at 2.

[bgtg19]

Earlier this year, I asked a coach to have a seat on the bench. He stared at me and did not move. I said: "Coach, please take your seat on the bench." He again stared and did not move. I said: "Coach, I'm not looking for trouble, but this is the third and final time I'm going to say this. Please take your seat on the bench." I then placed my whistle in my mouth. When he did not immediately comply with my request, I granted him a T. Of course, this particular coach was an assistant coach. (A partner was talking to the head coach and this assistant was trying to enter their conversation.)

As for head coaches, if there is a coaching box privilege that has not been lost, we officials are in the wrong if we ask a coach in her or his box to "sit down" while they are in the box. We can and should address what else is happening (e.g., what is being said), but not the fact that the head coach is standing.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

NV: Book at 10, Captains at 3, Coaches at 2.

Ditto for VA.

[Turk182]

There has to be more to this story, and I witnessed this exact same thing happen in a JR. Varsity tournament this year. The said coach had been ranting at the official the entire game, the official had called the foul on the said coaches player and the coach went nuts while standing in his box. The official told the coach "that's enough coach, you need to sit down", the coach replied, "you can't make me sit down" The technical was given and the coach sat down and didn't say another word the rest of the game.

[cmathews]

maybe bring a fire suppresent because I have a can of gas and am about to apply it to the fire LOL.....

I personally would like to see the coaching box abolished...(ok here comes the gasoline)...I think they should be able to roam as they do in the college ranks...I personally don't care to look and make sure the coach is in their "cage"....I understand that some think it is a tool...I am of the mind, if they say something inappropriate, I don't care if they are in or out of their box, if it deserves a "T", they get it, regardless of where they are located. I also am of the mind, that if they are coaching, I don't really care where they are...yes I direct them back to the box, but it would be much easier to not have to worry about it.....

[chartrusepengui]

Amen to that!

[REFVA]

If he is coaching his team and you haven't given him a T already, Why were you asking him to sit down?

[Turk182]

Ok, maybe the official was trying not to give the coach a "T". Maybe it's the way the coach told the official " you can't make me sit down". "Ok coach, that's enough, you need to sit down" (this should be a warning to the coach), coach: With his chest stuck out, and pointing his finger at the official, and screaming at the top of his lungs..." You can't make me sit down". I think that warrants a "T" and if he doesn't sit then, I give him another and wave good bye.