Very well officiated D-I game last night

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I'm only talking about the fact that you said you can put the ball anywhere on the endline. I'm not going to split hairs with a foot one way or the other. Now that I have (somewhat) answered your question, can you answer mine? Do you really put the ball anywhere or do you put the ball at the spot, or pretty close, to where it is supposed to be?

I didn't go to sleep yet. What question didn't I answer that you asked before the post above?

If you are at lead and the ball goes out of bounds on the other side of the paint, do you put the ball in on the side you are on, on the side it went out on with you over there, or bounce it across the paint? You have yet to tell me what determines where you put the ball into play. If you answered that simple question, we could quite possibly move on and agree to disagree. I have never said anything to make you think I would measure where I put the ball into play, so that statement does not apply here. However, my common sense directsl me where to put the ball into play - I put the ball into play where it went out (unless in the paint area) because...that is where it went out. Doing anything else would be inconsistent to say the least. If you answer my questions it would really shed some light on your thinking because what you are saying now is weird to me. If the ball goes out of bounds or there is a violation, do you do the same thing for the sidelines? If not, why not? Weird.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I didn't go to sleep yet. What question didn't I answer that you asked before the post above?

If you are at lead and the ball goes out of bounds on the other side of the paint, do you put the ball in on the side you are on, on the side it went out on with you over there, or bounce it across the paint? You have yet to tell me what determines where you put the ball into play. If you answered that simple question, we could quite possibly move on and agree to disagree.

I do not understand where you were going with this. If you feel it is that important, you have the right to do what works for you. As I have said before, I have never had anyone complain that I did not put the ball out at the "precise" spot. I have had a coach complain after a made FT that I did not hand the thrower the ball on the opposite side of the court in a very loud gym and I did not understand the request. But that is the only time I can think of if there was an issue once we state where the ball goes on the end line if the ball is put at. If I let players dictate, they would take the ball in the lane most of the time. I have to move them all the time from standing right under the basket.

Originally Posted by tomegun

I have never said anything to make you think I would measure where I put the ball into play, so that statement does not apply here. However, my common sense directsl me where to put the ball into play - I put the ball into play where it went out (unless in the paint area) because...that is where it went out. Doing anything else would be inconsistent to say the least.

Once again, I am looking for a reference that states to do what you suggest. Other than that I do not see any reason to change.

Originally Posted by tomegun

If you answer my questions it would really shed some light on your thinking because what you are saying now is weird to me. If the ball goes out of bounds or there is a violation, do you do the same thing for the sidelines? If not, why not? Weird.

Tommy, I have never had this conversation with anyone, ever in my career. So forgive me if I am kind of wondering why this is even an issue. Now if you have a person issue with this that is OK, just as long as we understand that. Now that does not mean I drastically move the ball around, but if the ball intersects with the 3 point line and the end line, based on a lot of factors which I stated, I might likely move the player to the half way between the 3 point line and the lane line. To me it does not matter. Even on the sideline, the configuration of the gym and where fans are might dictate many places I put the ball in at just because we might not have space to attempt a throw out of bounds.

Peace

[tomegun]

I would bet a large sum of money that you put the ball in the approximate spot where it goes out. I also think I'm not the only one who has heard and mentioned in pregame to put the ball in where it should go. I don't think this is a regional thing or something that just works for me. I think you are just trying to be argumentative. That's cool. I'm done with it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Tommy, I have never had this conversation with anyone, ever in my career. So forgive me if I am kind of wondering why this is even an issue. Now if you have a person issue with this that is OK, just as long as we understand that. Now that does not mean I drastically move the ball around, but if the ball intersects with the 3 point line and the end line, based on a lot of factors which I stated, I might likely move the player to the half way between the 3 point line and the lane line. To me it does not matter. Even on the sideline, the configuration of the gym and where fans are might dictate many places I put the ball in at just because we might not have space to attempt a throw out of bounds.
Peace

I am stunned by this. 9-3 PENALTY is pretty clear that the throw-in is from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. The violation is the ball striking something out of bounds. Nearest would be.....nearest.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I am stunned by this. 9-3 PENALTY is pretty clear that the throw-in is from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. The violation is the ball striking something out of bounds. Nearest would be.....nearest.

I am stunned that this is even an issue as well. For one I do not know anyone that reverts back their geometry class and put the ball according to theorems and formulas. Secondly I do not recall that I said anything that violated a rule. I stated that based on a lot of factors I may or may not put the ball in a few steps one way or another. I did not say I move the ball from one side of the court to another. I know it becomes an even more drastic situation when the ball goes out on the sideline, where in many gyms the fans are right off the court or the teams and the table are right next to the line that a player has no place to stand. It is very common to move a player to a spot where there is more room. I guess this will just be something I will have to disagree with people on. If the ball goes out at the "P" I am not going to lose sleep if I bring the ball in on the "A" or "N" in some cases.

Peace