Forfeit

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by KCRef

1st year ref here, and last week I was excited for my biggest game yet. Boys JV. I was planning on staying to watch the varsity game after, which was going to be televised locally. I imagine there were going to be a lot of fans there. As game time came closer and closer, the visiting team never showed up. My partner and I were deciding when to call the game. We figured game time was forfeit time, but we let the AD decide. He was going to give them 30 minutes, but he went to check his messages and found a voice mail from the visiting coach saying that they would not bring a JV team with them. I was very bummed. I took my $60 check and went home, but was wondering about calling a game. You guys ever have a forfeit at that level?

$60 for a JV game?????

Our fees in St. Louis are:
$40 NonVarsity (2 man)
$66 Varsity (2 man)
$60 Varsity (3 man)
no milage

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

$60 for a JV game?????

Our fees in St. Louis are:
$40 NonVarsity (2 man)
$66 Varsity (2 man)
$60 Varsity (3 man)
no milage

Ouch!! Varsity G/B DH in NW IA are $75 to $95.

[Texas Aggie]

I've had a bunch of 2 games turned into one for various reasons (including last Saturday), but never an outright forfeit in hoops. Had one years ago in Volleyball. It was a good thing because the home team didn't have the required padding on the poles and stands and we weren't going to play either way.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by MJT

Ouch!! Varsity G/B DH in NW IA are $75 to $95.

MJT,
How much 3 man are you running up there in your regular season? I'm just curious as this is the first year our playoffs are 3. We've been working 3 in central Iowa for quite a while now.

[BillyMac]

About twenty-plus years ago I had a early evening, junior varsity game scheduled on a Saturday, at a school about forty-five minutes away from my home. The weather report that day called for a little snow, but around midafternoon it started snowing like crazy. I tried to call the school, and of course, since it was Saturday, I got no answer. I tried to call my commissioner and my partner and couldn't get hold of them. This was way before cell phones were invented. So figuring that the trip in the snow would take me a lot longer than forty-five minutes, I left early, giving myself about seventy-five minutes to make the trip. When I finally got there, just a few minutes before game time, I found the junior varsity cheerleading coach and a police officier assigned to the game in the parking lot. They, like, me, had not been informed that the game had been postponed due to the storm, which the police officier was able to finally determnine after using his radio. When I got home, I finally got hold of my commisioner, who informed me that the athletic director had called him just a few minutes after I had left for home, and or course, my commissioner couldn't get hold of me because I was on the road. The athletic director hadn't called me directly because he left his officials dirtectory in is office at school and he was calling from home on a Saturday. After not getting a check after several weeks, I called my commissioner, who contacted the athletic director, who said that I would not be paid since I had left home too early for the game. I worked for this comissioner for over twenty-years and this was the one and only time that he didn't cover my back. In my opinion, I didn't leave too early, because if there had been a game that night, I would have actually gotten there a little on the late side. I still hold a grudge against this school even though the athletic director and coaches are long gone, and my commisioner has passed away. I still think that I deserved that junior varsity check. That's the only time that I did not get paid for a game in twenty-six years.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

About twenty-plus years ago I had a early evening, junior varsity game scheduled on a Saturday, at a school about forty-five minutes away from my home. The weather report that day called for a little snow, but around midafternoon it started snowing like crazy. I tried to call the school, and of course, since it was Saturday, I got no answer. I tried to call my commissioner and my partner and couldn't get hold of them. This was way before cell phones were invented. So figuring that the trip in the snow would take me a lot longer than forty-five minutes, I left early, giving myself about seventy-five minutes to make the trip. When I finally got there, just a few minutes before game time, I found the junior varsity cheerleading coach and a police officier assigned to the game in the parking lot. They, like, me, had not been informed that the game had been postponed due to the storm, which the police officier was able to finally determnine after using his radio. When I got home, I finally got hold of my commisioner, who informed me that the athletic director had called him just a few minutes after I had left for home, and or course, my commissioner couldn't get hold of me because I was on the road. The athletic director hadn't called me directly because he left his officials dirtectory in is office at school and he was calling from home on a Saturday. After not getting a check after several weeks, I called my commissioner, who contacted the athletic director, who said that I would not be paid since I had left home too early for the game. I worked for this comissioner for over twenty-years and this was the one and only time that he didn't cover my back. In my opinion, I didn't leave too early, because if there had been a game that night, I would have actually gotten there a little on the late side. I still hold a grudge against this school even though the athletic director and coaches are long gone, and my commisioner has passed away. I still think that I deserved that junior varsity check. That's the only time that I did not get paid for a game in twenty-six years.

Three words: Let. It. Go.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Three words: Let. It. Go.

It's only been 26 years, Bob. These things take time to get over.

Just teasin', Billy.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by MJT

Ouch!! Varsity G/B DH in NW IA are $75 to $95.

SE Iowa:

$80 VARSITY-JV DH
$70 JV DH
$50 JH DH
$45 JV OR 9TH SINGLE GAME
$30 JH SINGLE GAME
$65 3 MAN CREW

[ChrisSportsFan]

Just tonight I went to "the country" to work a GJV/GV DH. That's how it is around here when you have to drive so much farther, they will have you double up to make it more worth your while. Plus, you work both games 3 person. After arriving, I was informed that the visitors don't have enough kids to suit up a JV squad so there will only be 1 game tonight. It was fine because they played in the earlier time slot which means we got home earlier but none of us knew and of course they only paid for the 1 game.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

$60 for a JV game?????

Our fees in St. Louis are:
$40 NonVarsity (2 man)
$66 Varsity (2 man)
$60 Varsity (3 man)
no milage

Are these fees per person or to split amongst the crew?

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Are these fees per person or to split amongst the crew?

Those are per person. I cannot answer about the "milage" stuff cuz I don't know what that is.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

Those are per person. I cannot answer about the "milage" stuff cuz I don't know what that is.

Chris, Cut me a break. So I misspell. Are you the new 'Mr. Grammar"?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

I cannot answer about the "milage" stuff cuz I don't know what that is.

It's when all three officials carpool together to the game. You know, a milage a trois.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It's when all three officials carpool together to the game. You know, a milage a trois.

[coach41]

I've never had outright forfeits in high school in the 5 or so years I've been working. I've had cancellations or teams drop out of leagues (thus losing my games) before.

I've had a number of weird situations before with teams not showing up or things like that:

ONE
One time I showed up for a JV boys game about 30 minutes before game time. I noticed that the lights at the gym were off and no one was home. This rang a bell but I figured sometimes people open the gym late. Alas, it wasn't meant to me. I waited around for a while and no showed up. Interestingly, one of the VARSITY officials showed up as well. I guess he didn't know either. However, I noted that neither one of our partners ever showed up. STRANGE.....BTW this was the AD/Coach's fault. THe game was moved to the opponents gym (different city, different association).

TWO
This situation involved the same school as above. I was schedule for a JV boys game at 5 PM. I showed up about 4:40 PM and my partner is already there. My partner has interesting news. The opposing squad had decided earlier in the day to not bring their JV squad. So the school was ok with it....BUT did not tell the assignor.

So here we are at 5 PM with the varsity squads ready to play. In most circumstances, my partner and I would have reffed it. However, the opposing squad was a very good local team and I guess the assignor wanted a more veteran crew on the game.

So, everyone waited until about 6 PM and then the varsity game finally played.

Odd stuff us refs have to go through....