To count or not to count

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IamKip

1) You are using the term holding TOO literally. The player is in control of the ball!


2) Or are you saying that we should call it by the tossing distance instead? Is tossing it 2 feet sideways from hand-to- hand different than tossing it 10 feet up in the air from hand-to-hand? At what distance then do we stop the count? two feet? Four feet

I don't know would have to see it is all judgement..

1) Rule 4-12-1 says that a player is in control only when he's holding or dribbling the ball. Soooooo....if you saying that the player is in control when the ball is in mid-air between his two hands, which act is that player doing? Is he holding the ball while it is in mid-air between the two hands? Or is he dribbling the ball while it's in the air between his two hands. By rule, those are the only two choices. Soooooooo.......which one is your pick?

2) You never answered the question. What is your judgement as to what distance is required to stop the count? Two feet? Four feet? Five feet and eleventeen inches? Is there any difference by rule also as to whether the distance can be vertical or horizontal? How can we possibly know when to stop the count if we don't know exactly what distance and direction is needed to stop the count? Inquiring minds need to know! (PS-rules citations to back up your answers would be helpful too. Please.)