Huntington HS in trouble!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

After the ref near the table got bumped and fell to the ground, what was the other ref with the ball doing? Just standing there? Is that what you're supposed to do when your partner gets bumped to the ground after ejecting a player?

My question comes in before this -- a player is ejected and is walking after the official that tossed him -- what are the officials doing THEN?

Maybe it's much more natural if you're a baseball umpire who deals more frequently with ejections, but another official should've been moving towards that well before Mayo got to him.

[Jurassic Referee]

If that happened to one of our officials and we had that film clip, we'd lay charges and let the court sort it out.

Two games only for that is ridiculous. Somewhere along the line people are forgetting that this is still high school basketball, ESPN or not.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If that happened to one of our officials and we had that film clip, we'd lay charges and let the court sort it out.

Two games only for that is ridiculous. Somewhere along the line people are forgetting that this is still high school basketball, ESPN or not.

If the suspension is only 2 games, JR, it means he got NOTHING for the bump. He already HAD 2 technical fouls before that and the ejection carries the 2 game suspension. I can't believe he didn't get another technical there, either. It's not the NCAA where a third technical is forbidden.

I still say it looked a bit embellished (the bump/flop), but I'll give the official the benefit of the doubt.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

If the suspension is only 2 games, JR, it means he got NOTHING for the bump. He already HAD 2 technical fouls before that and the ejection carries the 2 game suspension. I can't believe he didn't get another technical there, either. It's not the NCAA where a third technical is forbidden.

Two games only would be a farce imo.

[Mountaineer]

Again, I haven't spoken with Mike (the official) but I tend to agree with the "flop" thinking too. One, the guy is in his late 20's and in fantastic shape. He played quarterback at Fairmont State College. My thinking is that it would take a helluva bump to knock him to the ground. The fact that he fell or flopped is not what's important - he was BUMPED by a player. I also agree that there was a problem with none of the other officials doing anything. Mayo certainly went after him and bumped him - something other than 2 games for the ejection is in order.

I'll probably be blasted for this statement - but I guess you can take the thug out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the thug!

[Tim C]

OrangeUmp = PWL on the baseball boards.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

Again, I haven't spoken with Mike (the official) but I tend to agree with the "flop" thinking too. One, the guy is in his late 20's and in fantastic shape. He played quarterback at Fairmont State College. My thinking is that it would take a helluva bump to knock him to the ground. The fact that he fell or flopped is not what's important - he was BUMPED by a player. I also agree that there was a problem with none of the other officials doing anything. Mayo certainly went after him and bumped him - something other than 2 games for the ejection is in order.

I'll probably be blasted for this statement - but I guess you can the thug out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the thug!

If you are going to say a comment - which is stupid in this case anyway - at least get it right. I hope you meant to put "take" after "can."

I know Mike and I have worked with him in the WVIAC and at the Nike camp (we were roommates). I just tried to call him and I imagine he is on the court right now. Maybe it was a little bit of a flop, maybe not. Whatever the case may be, the player made contact with him and that should be punished much more severely than two games. I also think his partners were probably less experienced than him and shook up under the bright lights.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by tomegun

If you are going to say a comment - which is stupid in this case anyway - at least get it right. I hope you meant to put "take" after "can."

I know Mike and I have worked with him in the WVIAC and at the Nike camp (we were roommates). I just tried to call him and I imagine he is on the court right now. Maybe it was a little bit of a flop, maybe not. Whatever the case may be, the player made contact with him and that should be punished much more severely than two games. I also think his partners were probably less experienced than him and shook up under the bright lights.

Fixed it just for you! Yeah, he probably is on the court. Great official. Another friend called him tonight and his explaination of the "flop" was this - he saw something out of the corner of his eye and stepped back, which sort of put him off balance and then OJ hit him which knocked him down. I'll say this about him - I've never known him to embellish the truth at all - if he said it wasn't a flop - it wasn't a flop.

Actually Mike is a relatively young official - only about 5 years experience. He's just got "it". One of the other officials calls womens in the WVIAC and has done the state tournament and the other one has probably 15-20 years in HS. They shouldn't have been bothered.

I've talked to a lot of other officials today and some think OJ should be suspended for the remainder of the year. I've heard some that think he should press charges. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Whatever the case may be, the player made contact with him and that should be punished much more severely than two games.

That's the bottom line right there.

I doubt very much that it will happen though. I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny either.