Huntington HS in trouble!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by cshs81

The first part is not true. OJ turned 19 in November. Ohio's cutoff is August 1st. He would have been eligible had he stayed at North College Hill High School.

True.

He would also be eligible in NC. He turned 19 on 11/5/06. Our cutoff date is October 16.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

WOW! The best HS player in the country by most accounts - OJ Mayo - was ejected from a game tonight. A buddy of mine actually stuck him for his 2nd T (I actually know all 3 - 2 of them are from my local board). I haven't been able to talk to him - just saw it on the news. My buddy is a D1 official and isn't afraid to whack someone - they actually stick kids pretty quickly IMO. That being said, the footage on TV actually looked like everything was justified.

Here's the problem - OJ, by WVSSAC rule, has to sit out 10% of their games - or 2 games. Their next game is against Artesia, CA - the former #2 team in the country. The game is on ESPN and is being played at Duke. So this will be interesting. Stay tuned if this interests you.

I'll preface by saying I don't know any details about the Player or Ref in this instance but by the tape of the 'flop' it looks more bogus than a WWF main event. Why did he get two T's?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'll preface by saying I don't know any details about the Player or Ref in this instance but by the tape of the 'flop' it looks more bogus than a WWF main event. Why did he get two T's?

Sigh.....

Mayo has already admitted that he brushed the official and then tangled legs. Iow, he freaking knocked the official down, intentional or not. But hey, don't believe that. It really was completely bogus. The ref deliberately planned to take that dive, just like you're saying. Yup, he planned it all the night before in a secret meeting. It's nothing but a conspiracy against the ballplayer.

Please tell me that you're not an official. You don't know any details but it's all the official's fault.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh.....

Mayo has already admitted that he brushed the official and then tangled legs. Iow, he freaking knocked the official down, intentional or not. But hey, don't believe that. It really was completely bogus. The ref deliberately planned to take that dive, just like you're saying. Yup, he planned it all the night before in a secret meeting. It's nothing but a conspiracy against the ballplayer.

Please tell me that you're not an official. You don't know any details but it's all the official's fault.

I said the same thing on page 1, JR. I wasn't saying that the official took a flop, I was saying it certainly APPEARED that way. I'm happy I was wrong and figured I was, but it didn't change my impression of that at the time.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I said the same thing on page 1, JR. I wasn't saying that the official took a flop, I was saying it certainly APPEARED that way. I'm happy I was wrong and figured I was, but it didn't change my impression of that at the time.

Well, Rich, everybody gets their opinion and this is where ours differ. I'll give any official the benefit of the maximum doubt until I either hear their side of the story or I can find out more of the details of everything that happened. Until that time, I'd never dream of second-guessing them publicly. I've been on the other side before too, and I've heard comments like "even his fellow officials say he was wrong".

I usually try to place myself in the official's shoes. And I never could really see any official taking a dive in a high-profile game like that.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I usually try to place myself in the official's shoes. And I never could really see any official taking a dive in a high-profile game like that.

In what kind of game COULD you see an official take a dive?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh.....

Mayo has already admitted that he brushed the official and then tangled legs. Iow, he freaking knocked the official down, intentional or not. But hey, don't believe that. It really was completely bogus. The ref deliberately planned to take that dive, just like you're saying. Yup, he planned it all the night before in a secret meeting. It's nothing but a conspiracy against the ballplayer.

Please tell me that you're not an official. You don't know any details but it's all the official's fault.

Sigh...........

Reading, like listening is a skill that will serve you well in your officiating duties.

To a casual observer with no 'axe' to grind(swallow your whistle) has to agree it looks like a flop. And in my opinion from the tape only, the second T was pretty quick and again, I don't know what was said and am only going by the tape. And please supply the quote that I said he deliberately planned to take a dive or that I said it was his fault.

At your next clinic, I suggest spending extra time on conflict and resolution.
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[deecee]

fullor30 -- you should maybe prescribe yourself your own medication.

OJ admitted to bumping -- whether or not Lazzo overacted is not for anyone to decide -- OJ bumped him and whether he fell or not doesnt change that fact.

Quick T -- your opinion -- it counts for less than a sportcasters knowledge of the rules -- and in the tape you CAN hear what is going on and you know the WHOLE events of the game and what happened.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by deecee

fullor30 -- you should maybe prescribe yourself your own medication.

OJ admitted to bumping -- whether or not Lazzo overacted is not for anyone to decide -- OJ bumped him and whether he fell or not doesnt change that fact.

Quick T -- your opinion -- it counts for less than a sportcasters knowledge of the rules -- and in the tape you CAN hear what is going on and you know the WHOLE events of the game and what happened.

Deecee...........again, I'm only making an observation from the tape. I'm not making a judgement of intent be it malice or incidental. Of course he bumped him, of course he should be suspended. My point AGAIN, is that by the tape ONLY, the fall looks suspect. Anyone who thinks he flopped or planned this of course dead wrong.Lazo probably had no idea who was behind him and it could have been his partner who caused him to fall. All I'm commenting on is the physical aspect of the fall and glad it wasn't me.

My 10 year old saw it and thought the fall was embellished, nothing more,nothing less. He had no idea who the player was, nor the situation.

Strictly an observation

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by fullor30

To a casual observer with no 'axe' to grind(swallow your whistle) has to agree it looks like a flop.

And when you talked to the official to get his side, what did he tell you?

I'm a casual observer with no axe to grind and I can't see how anyone can flop when he gets hit from behind. He isn't even looking at Mayo when the contact occurs. And again, Mayo already has admitted that he caused the contact and also tangled legs. Don't let that little piece of information stop you though.The only ones still crying "conspiracy" and "WWE flops" are the fanboys. And you.