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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 10:12pm
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backcourt from throw-in??

I have a question?

Team A has possession of the ball. Team B swats the ball out of Team/player A's hands and out of bounds, and the ball is awarded to team A for a throw-in. Team A throws the ball in from the baseline, and the ball sails past everyone to the backcourt where Team A gets possession of the ball. Is this not backcourt?? I Thought that in order for there not to be backcourt, possession had to change. Please enlighten me on this.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 10:16pm
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No violation.

4-12-6 Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, throw-in, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal.

Without team control, you can't have a backcourt violation.

(This is different from NCAA and NBA, I believe.)
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 10:34pm
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No violation.

4-12-6 Neither team control nor player control exists during a dead ball, throw-in, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal.

Without team control, you can't have a backcourt violation.

(This is different from NCAA and NBA, I believe.)
This is legal in the NCAA as well.

Rule 9-12-4.

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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 10:38pm
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There you have it. I think I'm thinking of team control related to fouls in NCAA rules. Or I'm making things up.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 11:19pm
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You are thinking of the team control foul difference on throw-ins for the NFHS and NCAA rulesets.

However, you were correct that this is illegal in the NBA unless it is in the last two minutes. That is the source of much confusing for those watching HS and college games. People believe that what they saw on TV in an NBA game applies just the same to the NFHS or NCAA games. It doesn't.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 12:49pm
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I understand

I was just thinking that since Team A had possession before the ball went out of bounds, that possession never changed even during the throw-in so it would be back court. So what you are saying is that no matter who had possession, a ball going out of bounds automatically becomes dead with no one having possession, therefore, there would be no backcourt.
my reasoning on this was from an instance in a game where Player A had the ball and player B swatted the ball loose from player A causing the ball to roll off their leg and go backcourt, where another player From A retrieved it and it wasn't called backcourt, yet possession never changed and I was told from this forum that it should have been called backcourt. So, that was were I sort of reasoned my thoughts. I guess I was wrong, but I learn ya know
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2007, 08:19am
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I have a question?

Team A has possession of the ball. Team B swats the ball out of Team/player A's hands and out of bounds, and the ball is awarded to team A for a throw-in. Team A throws the ball in from the baseline, and the ball sails past everyone to the backcourt where Team A gets possession of the ball. Is this not backcourt?? I Thought that in order for there not to be backcourt, possession had to change. Please enlighten me on this.
There is a big difference between the terms "possession, team control, player control",etc. It helped me to recognize the simplicity of this particular play/call or question once I understood the differences. I would suggest getting those three terms cleared up and then we realize that your question really did not have any relavence to the first two sentences you stated ie. It is irrelevant how the ball went out-of-bounds. Your Question really begins with the words: Team A throws the ball from the endline, and the ball sails ........... ANSWER: This is not a violation.
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