Venting

[Adam]

We had a fan sitting right behind the V bench one game, he was a fan for the V team. Half time, the senior official amongst us told the game admin (also an official in our association as well as the superintendant at this particular school). GA then gave the fan a little sheet of paper that outlined expectations for spectators and told him in no uncertain terms that if it needed to be addressed again, it would be the last time that day.

[rainmaker]

I tossed a fan directly once. It was a really, really lousy freshmen girls game and there were about nine total fans in attendance. Two fo them were freshmen boys from the home school. They were razzing the visiting players who were indeed unattractive, unskilled, and overweight. But it was completely and utterly appalling for them to point it out as obnoxiously as they did. I couldn't find the AD, and my partner wouldn't do anything, so I told the guys, "Hey, you two, OUT!!" They left very obediently. When the AD showed up I told him what I'd done.

[Terrapins Fan]

Here's something that happened to me. I am doing a JV game ( boys ) After a call, the varsity coach sitting opposite the team bench, said " You will Never work one of my games", then later made a comment about one of my calls
( and the call was right) I never acknowledged him, but it got under my skin.

what do you think? ignore or acknowledge?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here's something that happened to me. I am doing a JV game ( boys ) After a call, the varsity coach sitting opposite the team bench, said " You will Never work one of my games", then later made a comment about one of my calls
( and the call was right) I never acknowledged him, but it got under my skin.

what do you think? ignore or acknowledge?

Completely ignore. Probably want to say lots of things.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

After a call, the varsity coach sitting opposite the team bench, said " You will Never work one of my games",

"And you will never see one of mine." Then, just stare at him. Make sure you give him the stinky eye. Then, stare at his pants and puke on his, um, his um, uh, his shoes, yeah, his shoes.
Okay, seriously, ignore him if you can.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here's something that happened to me. I am doing a JV game ( boys ) After a call, the varsity coach sitting opposite the team bench, said " You will Never work one of my games", then later made a comment about one of my calls
( and the call was right) I never acknowledged him, but it got under my skin.

what do you think? ignore or acknowledge?

Report it to your assignor. Varsity HC in attendance at JV is part of the school administration as far as I'm concerned and comments like that from school administration are unacceptable. When I worked JV games quite often the person who let me in to the locker room would be the Varsity coach. I couldn't imagine one of those folks then going up in the stands and heckling the officials.

I had a school janitor standing at the end of the baseline (where there were no bleachers and no fans were allowed to stand there) heckling me and my partner one time. I went straight up to him and told him if he's going to act like a fan then he needed to go sit in the bleachers.

[deecee]

or make a statement and have him removed for trying to intimidate you...

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here's something that happened to me. I am doing a JV game ( boys ) After a call, the varsity coach sitting opposite the team bench, said " You will Never work one of my games", then later made a comment about one of my calls
( and the call was right) I never acknowledged him, but it got under my skin.

what do you think? ignore or acknowledge?

If I knew it was the varsity coach saying this. I would stop the game and ask him, "what did you just say?" If he repeats it. I would say, okay. I'm going to speak with the A/D about that comment. Guaranteed that will shut him up for the rest of the game. After the game, go home. Now, if the coach happens to be the A/D too. Home JV team getting a technical. Talk to my assigner about it afterwards.

For those that may ask. Let me answer it right now. Shoot 2 shots, give the ball back to the visiting team. Do not seat belt the JV coach. Nice thing about college is you can give a fan a technical. It does not count as a team foul or indirect to the head coach. Nice, but of course if you're too afraid to address the fan, well, you got problems. Might want to look at a different hobby.

[deecee]

Old I really would like some specifics on where and what level you do -- because even I am flabbergasted -- The only way I could see myself giving fans a T was if they were throwing stuff onto the court and WE had already asked them to stop via the PA system by the Head coach or game management. But fans getting a T from what I have been taught is a HUGH NONO -- and that is coming from NBA, D1, D2 top HS officials, assignors the works. The FANS have to earn that technical 3 or 4 times over before they actually get it. Just what I have been told.

[mplagrow]

I agree. I've never seen it called in about 1000 games I've reffed or coached. I've HEARD of it being called once, and that was a fiasco that never should have happened and should never be repeated.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

I agree. I've never seen it called in about 1000 games I've reffed or coached. I've HEARD of it being called once, and that was a fiasco that never should have happened and should never be repeated.

That must have been the ONE game OS was reffing.

I swore to myself I would never enter into one of these but I can't resist anymore.

[IREFU2]

I have only done this one time in my career as an official. It was a Girls Varsity Summer Camp and the fan was a parent of one of the players. He was being very nasty and sitting behind the table on the second row. The table was complaining and I asked him to be removed and since it was a camp, they wouldnt do it. So, I spoke with the coach of the team that his daughter played on. I told the coach that he could earn a "t" for his fan. The coached talked with him and he said the hell with the F@#$ing officials out loud. So we "t" the coach and then the coach asked him to leave or his daughter was on the bench for the rest of the season. Needless to say, he left. Of course those that dont know the rule gave me a hard time about that later on when they heard about it!!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

1) If I knew it was the varsity coach saying this. I would stop the game and ask him, "what did you just say?" If he repeats it. I would say, okay. I'm going to speak with the A/D about that comment. Guaranteed that will shut him up for the rest of the game.

2) After the game, go home.

1) Why didn't you just give him "The Stare"?

2) Great advice.