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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 12:58am
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Some good points Rut. When staying table side in two man you still have the responsibilty of the shooter, top two lane players on other side, ten second count, while trying to carry on a conversation with the coach. Good point on not being the one to call the foul also. On techs you also would have to go over to the other side after the last shot also. Maybe better to leave it the way it is.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 11:04am
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Some good points Rut. When staying table side in two man you still have the responsibilty of the shooter, top two lane players on other side, ten second count, while trying to carry on a conversation with the coach. Good point on not being the one to call the foul also. On techs you also would have to go over to the other side after the last shot also. Maybe better to leave it the way it is.
It's not like this wasn't the way we did it for YEARS before going opposite table was put in place.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 11:24am
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When you get so used to staying at the table (3man), it is hard to work a 2 man game because A) you want to stay at the table, and B) your coverage area is completely different. You really have to force yourself out of the 3 man mentality when going back into a 2 man situation.
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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 07:10pm
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How many of you veteran officials remember NFHS free throw mechanics over twenty-years ago?

The trail official was always to the shooter's left side, which if you can figure out the permutations, means that half the time you or your partner, were standing in front of a coach, the same coach. In some cases, I liked standing near a coach, especially a polite coach who had a question about the foul just called by me or my partner. In other situations, with a very angry coach, it was best to be on the other side of the court.

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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 09:04pm
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Just because it was done 20 years ago does not mean it is a good mechanic. I was watching an old Super Bowl and I saw a lot of mechanics that I would never want to go back to. Just because it was once done does not make it a very good idea for right now.

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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 10:36am
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Just because it was done 20 years ago does not mean it is a good mechanic. I was watching an old Super Bowl and I saw a lot of mechanics that I would never want to go back to. Just because it was once done does not make it a very good idea for right now.

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It doesn't mean it was a bad mechanic, either.

However, it was tied to always "working Cadillac," which WAS a stupid, horrible mechanic, so....
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 08:30am
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How many of you veteran officials remember NFHS free throw mechanics over twenty-years ago?

The trail official was always to the shooter's left side,
I think it was that way much less than 20 years ago. I started officiating in '93 and we still did it that way. That's only 13 seasons ago.

That was part of the "box/reverse box" system, where if the throw-in was on the wrong side of the basket, you had the Trail rotate across the floor in the middle of play to get back to the "box" positions.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 10:38am
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I think it was that way much less than 20 years ago. I started officiating in '93 and we still did it that way. That's only 13 seasons ago.

That was part of the "box/reverse box" system, where if the throw-in was on the wrong side of the basket, you had the Trail rotate across the floor in the middle of play to get back to the "box" positions.
It was also called "working Cadillac" as I referenced in the post right above this. I think it disappeared right around 93-94, but I've killed a lot of brain cells in the last 13 or so years.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2007, 08:20pm
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Rich Fronheiser and Scrapper1:

You guys have great memories. Remember if the ball was inbounded from a sideline, and if we were not in the Cadillac position, we eventually had to rotate or move back into the Cadillac postion, during a live ball, while there was action on the court. To do so meant that we had to have good eye contact with each other, or we could both end up on the same side of the court.
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