Hand Check

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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[Old School]

To add to this discussion. Hand checking is a defensive tactic taught by the coaches. It's a double edge sword for the coaches used entirely to their benefit. If this tactic is used against their player, and they are behind in the game, they complain to the high heavons and the reason they complain so loudly is because, since they teach it, they recognize it often before we the officials do. Again, this is being taught and what's being taught is how to do it in such a way where it's hard for the officials to see it. Believe me when I say it takes a trained eye to spot it.

If you really want to get a good look at how disadvangate this tactic is. You must watch, floor level or referee college men's games. You will get a good feel for it then. Where I think we must get involved as officials is when it doesn't stop because it is happening constantly during the game and none of us is going to call everyone we see. The way I like to approach this is verbally. HANDS! HANDS!! Now if I have to say it a 3rd time, beep, hand check! However, you can not always handle it this way either. There are certain situations where I blast it immedately and the one that sticks out the most, is when I'm in the C position and the ball is in front of me closest to the baseline and the Lead hasn't rotated over yet. Player head fakes a shot and attempts to drive the baseline for a layup. Defender, goes for the fake and is now a step behind the move, puts that hand on the dribbler and it slows the dribbler down so they can catch up. This is too big of an advangate to the defense. I call this right away. No verbal warning.

Beep! Hand Check! Baseline out!

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Old School

Defender, goes for the fake and is now a step behind the move, puts that hand on the dribbler and it slows the dribbler down so they can catch up. This is too big of an advangate to the defense. I call this right away. No verbal warning.

Beep! Hand Check! Baseline out!

What you're describing is a hold, not a handcheck. FWIW, the FED is pretty clear that handchecking (tagging, measuring, whatever) is ALWAYS a foul in HS. All the discussion on this thread of what is permissible is in contrast to the Fed's points of emphasis. I'm surprised at the number of respondents here who claim to let it occur without calling it.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

What you're describing is a hold, not a handcheck.

I disagree. IMO, a hold is when you actually wrap your hand around an opponent and/or grab something. Like grabbing the jersey or grabbing the arm and pulling it down while shooting. What I'm referring too is the hand or palm open, they rest it on the players hip while moving themselves, with a slight amount of pressure, slows the quicker player down enough for them (the defender) to catch up. Again, it takes a trained eye to see this and even more important, to see the disadvantage. It's okay to put the hand on then take it off, that's one thing, but to put the hand on and slow the dribbler down right at the pivotal point of the move, then take the hand off, well the damage has been done, and that should be a foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

IMO, a hold is when you actually wrap your hand around an opponent and/or grab something. Like grabbing the jersey or grabbing the arm and pulling it down while shooting. What I'm referring too is the hand or palm open, they rest it on the players hip while moving themselves, with a slight amount of pressure, slows the quicker player down enough for them (the defender) to catch up.

Oh, you're talking about a push.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, you're talking about a push.

No, I think he means over-the-back. Or reaching in. Maybe the guy did both at the same time. Is that a false double foul or a multiple foul?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

No, I think he means over-the-back. Or reaching in. Maybe the guy did both at the same time. Is that a false double foul or a multiple foul?

Whatever....!!!!!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

Ah, yes, the MTV generation! DJ Webstar!

MTV plays videos?

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