player coming off bench

[Junker]

What was your partner doing through all of this? It sounds like you got put out on an island and did the best you could by yourself.

[sseltser]

I can see how you might think my partner hung me out to dry, but he probably didn't see the player leave the floor then he might not count in this situation (I know count and make eye contact every time) because he saw no need to.

I was just thinking that another lesson to be learned here would be to inform the table to horn at every substitution even if the player has already been beckoned. That way I would have known that this player was not substituted properly.

[All_Heart]

What if the player returns to the floor and we don't see this happen? I thought the rule only allowed a technical if the officials observe it at the time it is happening (forgive me I don't have my rule book with me)

A5 is still considered a player, correct?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

What if the player returns to the floor and we don't see this happen? I thought the rule only allowed a technical if the officials observe it at the time it is happening (forgive me I don't have my rule book with me)

A5 is still considered a player, correct?

Since A5 was never replaced he has to still be considered a player during this time.

Of course, the illegal action must be observed in order to be penalized. How else could it work?

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Since A5 was never replaced he has to still be considered a player during this time.

Of course, the illegal action must be observed in order to be penalized. How else could it work?

Well....I had a situation a couple of years ago near the end of the game (around 2 minutes left). After a timeout only 4 players from Team A returned from a timeout, which we failed to recognize. The ball was being inbounded opposite the table near the division line. I was at C with my back to Team A's bench. After the ball was throw-in I noticed that there were only 4 players for team A. At almost the same time Player A5 jumped on the court. The majority of the players were on the other side of the court so I had taken 2 steps onto the court. Because of my position I didn't actually see the player enter the court and neither did my partners. I saw the player a second after he was on the court.

Is this a technical foul or do I need to SEE the player with my own two eyes () step from OOB onto the court?

I would think that the intent of the rule would be to penalize this with a technical.