Rookie-my hat is off to you veterans

[deecee]

in the beginning over T it up baby -- then as you get more comfortable tone it down. but new guys take tooooo much from coaches. you could always tell a coach

"coach you are talking to me like you assume this is my first game I have ever officiated. you keep it up and your assumption will be proven very wrong very fast."

DO NOT YELL THIS ACROSS THE GYM -- this is a you to coach line -- some might say you are baiting him I call it a test.

[dan74]

First, if I'm the lead and hear a coaches comment that I feel is over the line, do I stop the clock and then go to the coach or wait until the next dead ball?

Second, I just read a highly debated thread having to do with rookies who may be calling too many violations/fouls, therefore, "interupting" game flow. I, on the other hand, am a rookie who leans to the other side of the spectrum.

For background, I was a basketball player with a football body. As a result, and not being the quickest player on the court, I played post and banged a bit more than most. I, so far as an official, have allowed a more physical style of play, but I've also considered my bias and have been cognizant of advantage/disadvantage. Also, being new, I have assumed , rightly or wrongly, that my more experienced partners wouldn't want a rookie blowing a ton of whistles.

I'm thinking too much out there. I sometimes allow a bit more contact than maybe I should and then a split second later kick myself for not blowing the whistle.

With the amount of griping by the coaches, it seems like they want everything called. Maybe other rookies aren't experiencing this, but it's as if their griping results in less experienced officials calling a tighter and tighter game.

[Chess Ref]

[QUOTE=dan74]I'm thinking too much out there. I sometimes allow a bit more contact then maybe I should and then a split second later kick myself for not blowing the whistle.

I also let too much go in my first year and a half or so. ALL the coaches unhappy,even the winning ones, and a majority of my games went sideways. Kids tackling, shoving etc. A vetearn ref and someone I thought did a great job cornered me at half-time one game and said " Blow everything, they breathe on them tweet. " I was not having fun and tried that and forgot about Adv/Dis. It took about 15 games or so and lo and behold I could now start learning about Adv/Dis.

I was also a football player in school so if the kid could get up after another one of my no calls I felt okay with my no call of letting them play. Am I still learning about Adv/Dis , of course I am but I am not lerning in the middle of a riot. Out of 60 or so games this year only have had 1 go sideways - I didn't stop the rough play on the ball handler. I am having alot more fun. FWIW I regularly get the losing coach come up and thank me for a nicely called game. IMO I needed to do that couple of weeks of blowing everything then I was able to start learning Adv/Dis.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by dan74

1) First, if I'm the lead and hear a coaches comment that I feel is over the line, do I stop the clock and then go to the coach or wait until the next dead ball?

2) Second, I just read a highly debated thread having to do with rookies who may be calling too many violations/fouls, therefore, "interupting" game flow. I, on the other hand, am a rookie who leans to the other side of the spectrum.

1) Stop the clock if you're going to call a technical foul. If not, wait until the next opportunity to smarten the coach up, be it a whistle or when you're by his bench next.

2) Sigh. Every time you blow your whistle, you interrupt game flow. Does that mean that we're all supposed to stop blowing our whistles? This "game interrupter" nonsense just means "If I blow my whistle, it's OK. If you blow your whistle, it may or may not be OK- depending on how I personally feel about your call". That's my take on it anyway. Just more gobbledegook! Some officials call a tight game; some officials call a loose game. If you're consistent, the players will adjust.

[dan74]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

2) Sigh. Every time you blow your whistle, you interrupt game flow. Does that mean that we're all supposed to stop blowing our whistles? This "game interrupter" nonsense just means "If I blow my whistle, it's OK. If you blow your whistle, it may or may not be OK- depending on how I personally feel about your call". That's my take on it anyway. Just more gobbledegook! Some officials call a tight game; some officials call a loose game. If you're consistent, the players will adjust.

One partner I had at halftime, yes, the same one who gave me the glowing introductions, provided me input on a couple of my calls in the first half. I never could understand how he, as the trail (two person), had such good looks at plays in my primary-near the baseline-with a bunch of players in the paint. My guess is to him I was interrupting flow by making incorrect calls; however, to me, I called what I saw.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by dan74

One partner I had at halftime, yes, the same one who gave me the glowing introductions, provided me input on a couple of my calls in the first half. I never could understand how he, as the trail (two person), had such good looks at plays in my primary-near the baseline-with a bunch of players in the paint. My guess is to him I was interrupting flow by making incorrect calls; however, to me, I called what I saw.

Nod and smile, say "uh huh," a couple of times, and go home knowing you did your best. There are maybe going to be three or four calls a game that he sees you make where he has a good angle on the call as well. These aren't among them. As you officiate longer, you'll get a better feel for what to call; but you need to start by calling them when you see them.
Until you get an observer who is there just to watch you officiate... Then you can listen to his/her advice on whether a specific call made sense.

[REFVA]

One quick thing I learned when I stepped foot onto the floor for the first time ever. Remember only 50% of the people in any gym will like you and for only until you make the call against their team and the other 50% of the gym will like then. I keep that in mind every time I step foot onto the floor. Then again I don't care who likes me or not. I'm there to call a game.