Correctible Error

[bseybs32]

High School Game.

Here is the sit. as it was explained to me.
team A is shooting the first free throw of a double bonus foul. Confussion begins and the first shot is missed, rebounded and play begins going in team B's direction. Whistle, play is stopped. Official realizes that it was supposed to be 2 shots not a 1 and 1 situation. Officials line players back up at team A's free throw lane and attempt 2nd shot only. Basket is good. Play resumes with team B taking the ball out a POI.

Is this the correct procedure?

Should the officials have cancelled all action up to the point of interruption, and reshot both foul shots with play continuing after the 2nd attempt?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bseybs32

High School Game.

Here is the sit. as it was explained to me.
team A is shooting the first free throw of a double bonus foul. Confussion begins and the first shot is missed, rebounded and play begins going in team B's direction. Whistle, play is stopped. Official realizes that it was supposed to be 2 shots not a 1 and 1 situation. Officials line players back up at team A's free throw lane and attempt 2nd shot only. Basket is good. Play resumes with team B taking the ball out a POI.

Is this the correct procedure?

It depends. Did the officials announce 1 shot (or 1-1) or two? Did "everyone" go for the rebound or "only one" player? Did the officials kill play immediately or "after a while?"

Should the officials have cancelled all action up to the point of interruption, and reshot both foul shots with play continuing after the 2nd attempt?

The only sure things are that the first throw shouldn't be shot over, and the second FT should be attempted.

[Adam]

Depends. What did the administering official say to the kids prior to the first shot? If he said "2 shots," go back and line them up for the 2nd shot. If he said, "One and one," go back and have A1 shoot the 2nd shot and give B the ball for POI.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Depends. What did the administering official say to the kids prior to the first shot? If he said "2 shots," go back and line them up for the 2nd shot. If he said, "One and one," go back and have A1 shoot the 2nd shot and give B the ball for POI.

What the official said has no bearing in this situation. It applies when there should be 1-and-1 or only 1 shot and the official announces 2 shots.

[bseybs32]

From what i was told, they stopped play after team B got in their frontcourt. I was told they announced '2 shots'.

I say you line all back up and shot required 2nd shot, with play resuming as normal on the result of 2nd shot.

[FrankHtown]

This is a correctible error. Not awarding a merited free throw. Shoot the second shot with the lane cleared, then give B the ball at POI.

[bseybs32]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

This is a correctible error. Not awarding a merited free throw. Shoot the second shot with the lane cleared, then give B the ball at POI.

What if second shot is missed? Team A could rebound the miss and get a possible shot off. Or does this not matter since officials allow this to become a correctible situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What the official said has no bearing in this situation. It applies when there should be 1-and-1 or only 1 shot and the official announces 2 shots.

It does apply, because if the official announced two shots and the players still rebounded and played on, it's not a correctible error. Line 'em up and shoot the 2nd shot.
If the official made the mistake and said "one and one" or "one shot," then it's a correctible error.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It does apply, because if the official announced two shots and the players still rebounded and played on, it's not a correctible error. Line 'em up and shoot the 2nd shot.
If the official made the mistake and said "one and one" or "one shot," then it's a correctible error.

It would still be a failure to award a merited free throw. In not killing the play immediately the officials failed to award a merited free throw.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It would still be a failure to award a merited free throw. In not killing the play immediately the officials failed to award a merited free throw.

True, but personally, my threshold for "immediately" changes based on what the official says. If he says "two shots," and they blow the whistle within a couple of seconds (how many don't have their whistle in their mouth on the first of two?), which is all it takes for B to get most of the way down the floor, I consider that immediately.
If the official says "one" and everyone goes for a rebound, then it's a correctible error as soon as the ball is rebounded.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

This is a correctible error. Not awarding a merited free throw. Shoot the second shot with the lane cleared, then give B the ball at POI.

C-o-r-r-e-c-t-a-b-l-e

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It would still be a failure to award a merited free throw. In not killing the play immediately the officials failed to award a merited free throw.

some maybe most but certainly not all of us out here think that the awarding of the free throw or not awarding of the free throw is the announcement of ok guys/gals, we are shooting 2 or shooting 1 and a bonus etc....if you announce we are shooting 2 then you properly awarded 2 throws, if the rebounding action takes place kill it when you realize that they didn't "hear" you and shoot the second one.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It does apply, because if the official announced two shots and the players still rebounded and played on, it's not a correctable error. Line 'em up and shoot the 2nd shot.

Why not? The player had right to 2 FT, no matter what the official said.

If the official made the mistake and said "one and one" or "one shot," then it's a correctable error.

What difference does this make? It's not the same as handing the ball to the wrong team for a throw in (which is not covered under the correctable errors).

Ciao

[FrankHtown]

I would agree to line up the teams and shoot the second free throw IF no time ran off the clock. Once time runs off the clock, and the officials don't stop it, the clock has "properly started" and this is now a correctable (ty) error situation.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

Why not? The player had right to 2 FT, no matter what the official said.

What difference does this make? It's not the same as handing the ball to the wrong team for a throw in (which is not covered under the correctable errors).

Ciao

In either case, the 2nd FT will be awarded....the player still earned it.

The difference is what else happens...

If 1+1 was announced, the rebound was earned and if by the defending team, they get to keep it....they don't have to also get the 2nd rebound to get the ball.

If 2 was announced, the rebound was not earned. It was a dead ball.