Bench Decorum

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Juulie, if I hear a team member on the bench whining about any calls or no-calls, I will make sure to tell the head coach to control his bench. Every time. Every year I get less and less tolerant of players and assistant coaches whining toward myself and my partner.

Any whining at all? I mean, I'm hearing it every game, almost, and I really have started to think that no one's worried about this but me.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Any whining at all? I mean, I'm hearing it every game, almost, and I really have started to think that no one's worried about this but me.

If I am certain it's one of the players on the bench or an assistant, I have a zero tolerance policy for that. Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's someone on the bench or in the stands, though. I won't say anything unless I am certain it's someone on the bench that's whining.

[Jurassic Referee]

I'm with everybody else. One whiner per bench only----> the head coach.

Nip it, nip it in the bud.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Had an interesting thing happen this past weekend. Thursday night in a tournament game, I ended up wacking a coach for too much refereeing. Friday, I spoke to another official who heard the T on the radio, and spoke to the coach about it Friday morning. Coach told him that he knew that he had received the T for too much refereeing and that even his wife had let him have it pretty good that night at home.

Saturday afternoon, I show up at the same gym, and when I arrived, it was the start of the 3rd quarter, and this same team was playing. Throughout the entire 3rd quarter, the coach was in his seat, coaching his players. As I got up to leave at the quarter break, I asked a couple of the officials if one of them had wacked him in the first half or something. They said, "No, what you did to him Thursday night changed him."

It gets even better.

When our crew came out onto the floor before our game, as soon as I had taken my position to observe the home team warming up, this same coach stepped up beside me. He told me that he wanted to apologize for his actions Thursday night, that he had gone home, thought about what he did, prayed about it, and was convinced that he was wrong. I accepted his apology, and that was the end of it.

Miracles never cease!

[deecee]

WS -- WoW -- but I have always said that you can only effect (affect? -- someone help me here) or reason with those that are at least reasonable themselves.

[Nevadaref]

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

usage Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb ²affect usually has to do with pretense [she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down]. The more common ³affect denotes having an effect or influence [the weather affected everyone's mood]. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result [the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement]. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect [waiting for the new law to take effect] [the weather had an effect on everyone's mood].

[Raymond]

For whatever reason the bench decorum from the HS leagues I officiate has never been a real problem (knock on wood). The very few times I've had to address it I do it the on the very first instance. I've only had to T one assistant coach during my HS career.

All my major bench decorum problems come during AAU ball. In the AAU setting I address the first transgression directly to the perpetrator in a very loud tone and I make sure the head coach hears it and the words I use are not the friendliest. If there is a 2nd transgression I tell (I do not ask) the head coach he needs to controls his bench. I've never had a 3rd transgression.

[Ref Daddy]

Not just whining about calls - We have a team that chants " ..... and one" on every contested shot - in essence pining for a call.

Shut it down.

There is no question that for an official the hardest call to make is one a player, fan or coach beats you too

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

usage Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb ²affect usually has to do with pretense [she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down]. The more common ³affect denotes having an effect or influence [the weather affected everyone's mood]. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result [the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement]. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect [waiting for the new law to take effect] [the weather had an effect on everyone's mood].

How bold of m-w.com. They're usually so friggin' descriptive....

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Smitty

If I am certain it's one of the players on the bench or an assistant, I have a zero tolerance policy for that. Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's someone on the bench or in the stands, though. I won't say anything unless I am certain it's someone on the bench that's whining.

I agree, our attention isn't really focused on the bench and sometimes it's difficult to hear where it's coming from. When I do catch it for sure, at the next opportunity I simply tell the HC to get his bench under control. Like JR said, only one whiner allowed per bench - the HC....and even that has a limit....

[Mountaineer]

I'm still laughing over the "Sorry Robin, I only talk to Batman" comment on another thread - I cannot WAIT to use that one.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer

I'm still laughing over the "Sorry Robin, I only talk to Batman" comment on another thread - I cannot WAIT to use that one.

I prefer referencing "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl," but it's not often appreciated.