Bench Decorum

[rockyroad]

[QUOTE=bgleason@neonin] I bang the bench.
[QUOTE]

Oh my!!

Just wanted to get in on this one before M&M or Dan_Ref...

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

How much do y'all address the issue of bench team members "calling" violations and fouls? Do you ignore the bench as they yell, "Travelling! "3 seconds!" "Double dribble!" At what point do you draw the line? I find that it gets under my skin very quickly, but when I ask the coach to get it under control, he acts as though I'm speaking Hindi (well, actually the Hindi people mostly speak Urdu, I think) or something. Am I the only one that's dealing with this?

Tim Taylor, Smitty, Camron, I'd be especially interested in your practice in this area.

I will nip it in the bud the first time I hear it.

[Adam]

Part of my problem is that I hear all the chirping and don’t necessarily know whence it comes.
Unless I take the time to look at the bench and acknowledge them, I don’t know if it’s coming from the HC, the AC, B12, or grumpy Dad. If I know it’s from the bench, but not the HC; I’ll ask the HC to address it. If it’s constant from the HC, I might remind him that I’ve done this before.

[Corndog89]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Part of my problem is that I hear all the chirping and don’t necessarily know whence it comes.
Unless I take the time to look at the bench and acknowledge them, I don’t know if it’s coming from the HC, the AC, B12, or grumpy Dad. If I know it’s from the bench, but not the HC; I’ll ask the HC to address it.

Yeah, me too. 4-5 years ago in a BV game I thought a coach was whining for a 3-seconds call so I turned and started to address it when I realized it was a guy directly behind the bench. The rest of the game that guy and his buddies never shut up. Sooooooooo, unless I know for sure who's talking, and I rarely turn around for confirmation, I normally don't acknowledge such whining.

Besides, it really just doesn't bother me that much...besides, ignore it and it usually eventually stops.

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

when I ask the coach to get it under control, he acts as though I'm speaking Hindi (well, actually the Hindi people mostly speak Urdu, I think) or something. Am I the only one that's dealing with this?

No, a lot of people get Hindi and Urdu confused.

From Wikipedia:
"Urdū is often contrasted with Hindi, another standardised form of Hindustani. The main difference between the two is that Standard Urdū is written in Nastaliq calligraphy style of the Perso-Arabic script and draws heavily on Persian and Arabic loanwords, while Standard Hindi is written in Devanāgarī and has inherited significant vocabulary from Sanskrit. Linguists therefore consider Urdū and Hindi to be dialects of the same language.[3] Together Hindi-Urdu is the second most widely spoken language in the world."

[Jway44]

Is it just me, or has this been the season of Assistant coaches doing all of the chirping. The only problems that I have had from coaches this year have all been the assistants, not the HC.

PS, I usually tell the HC the first time I hear anything from the bench "Coach, your bench is getting ready to cost you your coaching box privilages" and they tend to fix the problem right away. If they don't, the T comes out.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by Jway44

Is it just me, or has this been the season of Assistant coaches doing all of the chirping. The only problems that I have had from coaches this year have all been the assistants, not the HC.

PS, I usually tell the HC the first time I hear anything from the bench "Coach, your bench is getting ready to cost you your coaching box privilages" and they tend to fix the problem right away. If they don't, the T comes out.

Actually in most of my games I think I'm hearing it less. They made a point out of discussing assistants at our state rules meeting. Really the only times I've had to warn assistants were in the first week of the season and then at one 1A school out in the sticks (that I'll be visiting Friday).

[Huntin' Ref]

In one of my first ever varsity contests, we had an assistant coach questioning calls. My partner (very prominant college official) calmly walked over and told the assistant coach that he only had 3 reasons for being in the gym. #1 help the head coach keep track of fouls/timeouts #2 learn how to coach from the head coach #3 "Most importantly to drive the bus, and I don't listen to the bus driver!"

Kinda like the Batman and Robin line!

[Jway44]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

In one of my first ever varsity contests, we had an assistant coach questioning calls. My partner (very prominant college official) calmly walked over and told the assistant coach that he only had 3 reasons for being in the gym. #1 help the head coach keep track of fouls/timeouts #2 learn how to coach from the head coach #3 "Most importantly to drive the bus, and I don't listen to the bus driver!"

Kinda like the Batman and Robin line!

Ouch. That is a good one.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

In one of my first ever varsity contests, we had an assistant coach questioning calls. My partner (very prominant college official) calmly walked over and told the assistant coach that he only had 3 reasons for being in the gym. #1 help the head coach keep track of fouls/timeouts #2 learn how to coach from the head coach #3 "Most importantly to drive the bus, and I don't listen to the bus driver!"

While the asst coach shouldn't be questioning calls, I don't agree with treating people in this manner. A very successful official once told me that he always listens to asst coaches because someday they will become head coaches.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

No, a lot of people get Hindi and Urdu confused.

From Wikipedia:
"Urdū is often contrasted with Hindi, another standardised form of Hindustani. The main difference between the two is that Standard Urdū is written in Nastaliq calligraphy style of the Perso-Arabic script and draws heavily on Persian and Arabic loanwords, while Standard Hindi is written in Devanāgarī and has inherited significant vocabulary from Sanskrit. Linguists therefore consider Urdū and Hindi to be dialects of the same language.[3] Together Hindi-Urdu is the second most widely spoken language in the world."

If you're not careful, you'll be appointed Official Annoying Wikipedia Guy.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

No, a lot of people get Hindi and Urdu confused.

From Wikipedia:
"Urdū is often contrasted with Hindi, another standardised form of Hindustani. The main difference between the two is that Standard Urdū is written in Nastaliq calligraphy style of the Perso-Arabic script and draws heavily on Persian and Arabic loanwords, while Standard Hindi is written in Devanāgarī and has inherited significant vocabulary from Sanskrit. Linguists therefore consider Urdū and Hindi to be dialects of the same language.[3] Together Hindi-Urdu is the second most widely spoken language in the world."

Thanks. Reminds me of the relationship between Serbian (written in Cyrillics) and Croatian (written in Latin letters).

[Greg]

My rule of thumb is simple: Nobody besides the head coach should be chirping from the bench. One warning should suffice. Most coaches will get pretty upset if someone else on the bench does something to warrant a "T"