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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 12:08pm
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 12:23pm
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If you have a large bag with all the items you need to officiate, you pull out your can of starch and spray the net. If you don't, you never stop a running clock to fix the net.

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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 02:10pm
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Not to be nosy, but are his reasons public knowledge? If so, why is he "in hiding?" Just curious.
Chuck started doing some NCAA D1 games this year. He didn't think that it would be a good idea to continue posting and maybe get involved in confrontations, flames, etc. It was his own personal choice. I can see his reasoning. You never know who is reading these forums or how they might react to some posts.

He is certainly missed.

Chuck Elias

On the bright side, it looks like he has been ably replaced by Old School and Scrappy1.
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 03:23pm
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Rule and/or mechanics reference, please.
Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 04:14pm
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Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.
This explanation strikes me as being, what someone recently called, overly ANALytical. JMHO
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 04:17pm
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If you have a large bag with all the items you need to officiate, you pull out your can of starch and spray the net. If you don't, you never stop a running clock to fix the net.

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Do you have a can of spray starch in your bag? I have a can of static guard but no spray starch!
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 04:22pm
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Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.


If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.
There's a lot of Nevada Ref in you, Camron.

And that ain't a good thing.....
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 04:25pm
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There does seem to be a growing resemblance doesn't there.
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 06:17pm
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Rule 1-10-1:
...and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.

If it is laying over the top of the ring, it is not suspended beneath.
Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 06:19pm
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Chuck started doing some NCAA D1 games this year. He didn't think that it would be a good idea to continue posting and maybe get involved in confrontations, flames, etc. It was his own personal choice. I can see his reasoning. You never know who is reading these forums or how they might react to some posts.

He is certainly missed.

Chuck Elias

On the bright side, it looks like he has been ably replaced by Old School and Scrappy1.
Okay, the secret is out. ChuckElias now posts as Old School!
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 06:20pm
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Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?
Where's the one that states that you don't?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 07:18pm
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Where is the rule, case play, or NFHS interpretation that states you stop the game and pull the net back down?
OK. So Player A1 dunks the ball cleanly and the breakaway rim doesn't return to level. Do you just keep playing with the rim at an angle? I don't know of any rule or case play that addresses it. The team should have a basket as specified in the rules at which to shot their shots....and that doesn't not include a basket that is partially obscured by a net over the top which is far more likely to negatively affect the shot than help it..
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 07:26pm
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Where's the one that states that you don't?
So now there's supposed to be a list of rules that tell officials what not to do?

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OK. So Player A1 dunks the ball cleanly and the breakaway rim doesn't return to level. Do you just keep playing with the rim at an angle? I don't know of any rule or case play that addresses it. The team should have a basket as specified in the rules at which to shot their shots....and that doesn't not include a basket that is partially obscured by a net over the top which is far more likely to negatively affect the shot than help it..
Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

I've never seen a rim not return to it's proper position after a dunk.
I've never seen a net prevent a ball from going through the basket.

Still waiting on that rule, case play, or interp?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 07:53pm
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Where's the one that states that you don't?
NFHS rule 6.7. That rule states very explicitly when the clock should be stopped. If the FED had wanted to stop play for nets hung up, they sureasheck would have put it in 6-7 so that all of us knew and followed a standard procedure. It ain't in there, is it?
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Old Sat Jan 06, 2007, 07:54pm
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Still waiting on that rule, case play, or interp?
So am I.

But since neither one of us has one, my point is that there is just as much support for handling this in either fashion. The official must do what he believes is best at that particular time in that specific situation.
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