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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:07am
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Talking Case Play from SEC Camp

Here is a good one you guys! Had some interesting answers at our HS meeting last night. Here is the play:

Player A2 in on the left wing outside the 3 point line. B2 is defending. A1 has the ball at the top of the key. B2 takes a quick peak at A1 (with the ball). As B2 rotates their head left (away from A2 to take the peak at the ball), A2 cuts left (around B2) toward the basket.

A passing lane opens and A1 makes an easy pass to A2 (on their way for an easy lay-up). A2 catches and possess the ball (on the move) with their RIGHT foot on the floor. Then, A2 takes a step with their LEFT foot toward the basket, LIFTING their right foot. (OK so far????)

Then, because A2 is not close enough to the rim for an easy lay up, A2 gets innovative and HOPS on their left foot (the right foot still never touching the floor again). A2 then lays the ball up and in for an easy left side lay-up.

You are at Lead (ball side) and have a fantastic view of the play. What would you call? Traveling (and wave off the score)? Nothing (a legal play)? Nothing (astonished that this actually happened)? Nothing (do not understand Rule 4, Section 44)? How would you back it up if questioned?

(And, YES this case play actually happened!!)

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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:30am
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:34am
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It's a travel. It might not be specifically defined as such...or at all....but the intent and purpose of the rule can't be to allow a player to pogo-hop down the court without dribbling or shooting while in player control of the ball.

Not specifically covered iow, but that's what I'd call....just off the top of my head.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:35am
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I don't even work anywhere near the SEC, so I can't pretend to know what they would do. But in my game, that's a travel.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:36am
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My vote....wait for it...travel.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:50am
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travel, or as the kids would call it "ups and downs"
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 10:54am
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Here is a good one you guys! Had some interesting answers at our HS meeting last night. Here is the play:

Player A2 in on the left wing outside the 3 point line. B2 is defending. A1 has the ball at the top of the key. B2 takes a quick peak at A1 (with the ball). As B2 rotates their head left (away from A2 to take the peak at the ball), A2 cuts left (around B2) toward the basket.

A passing lane opens and A1 makes an easy pass to A2 (on their way for an easy lay-up). A2 catches and possess the ball (on the move) with their RIGHT foot on the floor. Then, A2 takes a step with their LEFT foot toward the basket, LIFTING their right foot. (OK so far????)

Then, because A2 is not close enough to the rim for an easy lay up, A2 gets innovative and HOPS on their left foot (the right foot still never touching the floor again). A2 then lays the ball up and in for an easy left side lay-up.

You are at Lead (ball side) and have a fantastic view of the play. What would you call? Traveling (and wave off the score)? Nothing (a legal play)? Nothing (astonished that this actually happened)? Nothing (do not understand Rule 4, Section 44)? How would you back it up if questioned?

(And, YES this case play actually happened!!)

I don't know what year of SEC camp you are talking about but since most all the guys are still of the coach Guthrie line this would be a walk because of the pro "hop" rule, therefore I would say that it is a travel cause you cannot hop off of one leg and land on the same leg. I know, I know it is a travel in any ruleset but I would bet that at camp that is the reasoning they gave.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 11:29am
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In my game it would be a travel
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 12:00pm
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 04:10pm
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2007, 05:46pm
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Old Fri Jan 05, 2007, 12:02pm
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Has a pivot foot been established? Yes, per 44-2-a-2.
Then 44-3-b applies "If the player jumps, neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal."
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